Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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Spgeti wrote:I need to be shot for not seeing Inky.....after all I owned his Camaro for 23 years.



But did he have a pink helmet back then in Camaro Spgeti, hes tricked you too
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Whatever happened to the Rover?
Carlo wrote:with Inky Tulloch, that is Inky in the photo.

The Rover was a most interesting car to work on with an injection system that was operated by a cam on the throttle shaft that triggered micro switches but which worked more like an on/off switch than anything that could possibly resemble a metering device. The car had been rebuilt in Perth before shipping to NZ but all the bouncing around in the transporter whilst traveling across Australia wore out the shock absorbers and most of the new rose joints that Tim & co had fitted during the rebuild. Sure had to chase around for a few things the first couple of meetings. Winston Wrigley co-drove with Inky in the earlier races during that season.
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Tim Slako sold it to a guy called Geoff Herbert sometime 1987/88. Herbert ran it as number 40 ( Slako always ran #96 ) from ( at least ) October '88 to June 1990 at Barbagello ( Wanneroo ) with Peter Harper as co-driver when required in various WA Sports Sedan, street cars (??), Group A, and a couple of 300km races. Apparently some guy in Sydney has got it now.
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A bit of variety!

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One of dad's Donington pics 1938. When Austin made their own racing cars! Not sure of the power to weight ratio with that particular driver.
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1971 Prescott. I always did have a fascination for these three wheelers.
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I have absolutely no idea what this is or anything about it. Snapped at Cherstey. At a guess, built on an XJ6/Daimler Sovereign.
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Although this appears to be registered in 1964, it was racing in the Pre 1957 race at Cadwell Park.
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No prizes for guessing this one, or where, or when...
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ERC wrote:Not yet accurately dated - though work is continuing...

Possibly 1983? From a colour slide by the looks of it and more than likely dragged from the pile of unmounted slides, that at the time, were not worthy of mounting. With a scanner, it is possible to crop before scanning, so many slides that may have been in the dump pile, can be cropped to give a decent image. There are so many that I'll never ever get all the decent ones scanned, let alone the second rate ones!


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Correct. This is Des Bullas in the Black and White Avenger. He is my Uncle who now resides in Melbourne.
Unfortunately the car does not exist anymore. The shell was cut up (by me!) around 1993 as it was pretty tired and we decided to build a new car.
The car we built was a Talbot Sunbeam. The running gear from the Avenger was used in the new car, and everything else was fabricated.
I still have the Sunbeam, however I haven’t raced for about 10 years now (Getting divorced had a major impact on the household income!).
I have had thoughts of selling the car but watching all of these “Historic Sports Sedans “ coming back to life has piqued my interest again… :)
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ERC wrote:Not yet accurately dated - though work is continuing...

Possibly 1983? From a colour slide by the looks of it and more than likely dragged from the pile of unmounted slides, that at the time, were not worthy of mounting. With a scanner, it is possible to crop before scanning, so many slides that may have been in the dump pile, can be cropped to give a decent image. There are so many that I'll never ever get all the decent ones scanned, let alone the second rate ones!
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Correct. This is Des Bullas in the Black and White Avenger. He is my Uncle who now resides in Melbourne.
Unfortunately the car does not exist anymore. The shell was cut up (by me!) around 1993 as it was pretty tired and we decided to build a new car.
The car we built was a Talbot Sunbeam. The running gear from the Avenger was used in the new car, and everything else was fabricated.
I still have the Sunbeam, however I haven’t raced for about 10 years now (Getting divorced had a major impact on the household income!).
I have had thoughts of selling the car but watching all of these “Historic Sports Sedans “ coming back to life has piqued my interest again…
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Thanks for the PM Growler. Due to the costs of film, I obviously didn't take as many pics then as I did now, so I am not sure whether or not I have any more pics of the Avenger. If you send me another PM with your normal email address, I'll send you a larger pic, as on here, the limit is ony 185k.

Flagging there was one of the better posts unlike half way down the Puke straight or where I flagged at Ardmore, where we saw no action and we were not in a good position to take photographs when on stand down. (ie two were flagging, one observing and others on stand down/incident crew.) I never even managed to get to the paddock at the 1989 Ardmore.
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Formula Juniors at Goodwood, 2009.

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Over 40 ERC cars this weekend at Pukekohe and the first practice was the two groups combined - AES & Arrow Wheels.

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V12 bliss - but differing fortunes! Alan was getting to grips in his first race with us and his first at Pukekohe I believe, his Andy Culpin built 5600cc BMW M8 was improving all weekend. Derek Moore in the ex-Andy Turpin Jaguar was also going great guns but a tyre blew on turn one.

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Meanwhile, Zac regretted modifying his exhaust system on the gorgeous BMW 635 (now with new long lines and Longines) and fell foul of the noise meter. His further modifications to quieten it again didn't really work, and he was pinged again.
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Pity the noise control people don't ping the helicopters flying around here day and night.

Drivers seems to be getting used to the track now, but competitor and support vehicle parking is a total shambles unless you are in a pit garage.
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Noise, oh damn. This theme really really peeves me. It's a race track and has been for along time, (most probably before the 'noise man' was born) some one please buy a big bottle of Vaseline and help put the sound meter where it should be.
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as I said on abother post on here Rod, noise is only a problem at the boundary of the venue. the use of a noise meter at the edge of a race track should be stopped as it achieves nothing.
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Rod Grimwood wrote:Noise, oh damn. This theme really really peeves me. It's a race track and has been for along time, (most probably before the 'noise man' was born) some one please buy a big bottle of Vaseline and help put the sound meter where it should be.


Thats all good, But I have never actually seen a "noise man" . I have heard about them, and from them, but never seen one in the flesh.
(Mind you i could say the same about Jesus Christ)
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rogered wrote:Thats all good, But I have never actually seen a "noise man" . I have heard about them, and from them, but never seen one in the flesh.

They don't stand in the middle of the track! They are generally sited where a car is literally at full noise, or at least under full acceleration. Ask the CoC as he or she will know exactly where the meter is sited.

We were discussing this at the track it and the consensus was that if Kenny Smith got pinged, what would his reaction be? We reckoned the council noise people would have to approach him directly and we would all stand and watch, record it and post it on YouTube!

"Council employee picks on pensioner/sporting icon, relaxing..."

As pointed out to me, if we don't comply, we'll only end up with tougher measures and the Nimby's will win yet again.
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Isn't the sound man at Pukekohe just before the bridge on the front straight?

Exhaust noise testing for road cars is described in the LVVTA manual, and describes a pre-test test that could be useful for those with elderly ears. :p

The value of trackside testing is consistency between venues - no getting pinged at one track for an exhaust that was ok'ed at another track. :(
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I know that there is a sound meter sighted as you exit the new part on the back straight. Not sure where the others are.
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Bryan wrote:Isn't the sound man at Pukekohe just before the bridge on the front straight?

Exhaust noise testing for road cars is described in the LVVTA manual, and describes a pre-test test that could be useful for those with elderly ears. :p

The value of trackside testing is consistency between venues - no getting pinged at one track for an exhaust that was ok'ed at another track. :(


The LVVTA test bears little resemblance to any track testing I know of, and if it's consistent how come the same car will pass pretty much everywhere except Puke?
Of course this discussion raged solidly a few months back.
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The LVVTA test is within inches of the tailpipe and the engine held at a steady 3,000rpm.
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min was done at 200mm above ground, 500mm and 45 degrees fron the exhaust flow at 3400rpm as required. maybe you should had read the reqirements
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The atmospheric conditions affect the measurement. A cloudy day will make you read higher.
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