Image wouldn't upload for me either, Steve, so I had to do it the long way.
There seems some doubt about the last man/car on the grid. Rest of grid appears to be McRae/Lawrence, Cary Taylor/Mike Hole, then Peter Maloney/ ??. Bill Smith was entered, but so was Baron Robertson, and the ever-unreliable Graham Vercoe mentions him finishing 4th but no reference to Bill Smith. Ken Smith, Radisich, and de Lore practised but didn't run, according to Vercoe, or was he just guessing?
I was 12000 miles away at the time so don't have any magazines or anything to look up, but just to confuse historians even more, as well as Peter Maloney racing that season there was also Peter Mahoney running a Brabham around that time.
Stu
OK, magazine report says Ken Smith, Frank Radisich, Peter de Lore, Bryan Faloon, Dexter Dunlop, and Robbie Francevic were all scratchings. Some broke in practice, others didn't actually front. Race report mentions McRae, Lawrence, Taylor, Robertson, Hole, Maloney, and Bill Smith.
That was just the report David, not the results. It only mentioned those drivers. Thats not to say it was any more correct than the race results given in Graham Vercoe's book, which are as follows:
1. Graham McRae 2. Graeme Lawrence 3. Cary Taylor 4. Baron Robertson 5. Mike Hole 6. Peter Maloney
My apologies for being a little careless several posts ago. If I had looked a bit more closely, I would have seen that Moloney's name was always spelled correctly in any programmes I have, and perhaps only Vercoe got it wrong. I don't have any newspaper clippings for this period, and I'm not sure Moloney's name would have appeared very often, if at all.
In my personal case I find that many people can mis-spell and mispronounce both of my names, and like Eoin Young, I have spelled out my name for people and then watched them write it down wrongly! And it was happening long before the Internet or texting!
Bill Smith was from Hastings, a ''motor engineer'' he liked referred to himself as. If my memory is correct he took the Brabham to Barpark but found the pace a little too hot, and offered the drive to Ken Smith, who may have had a problem with his own car.This car later became a Formula Ford, owned by Eric Anderson and a partner.Maybe somebody in NZ could ask Ken Smith for his take on it.
Earlier Bill had raced a Cooper Norton at various Levin meetings with the formula Vees, in the company of Graham Richards also Cooper Norton mounted.Bill later installed a Vincent engine in the Cooper and this car has been in Australia for some time and owned by Derry Greeneklee. Like-wise Graham Richards Cooper Norton is here as well and forms part of the Penrite collection. Its possible both of these cars will be competing at Wakefield Park at the end of september.
Garry Simkin
Nice one, thanks Garry. I went to pretty much every meeting at Bay Park in those days and was quite perplexed that Bill had slipped off my radar. Although nobody else has been on to update us. So is it in fact the ex-Oxton car ? I do recall seeing Kenny in the car, in those days the blue windscreen was a feature.
Ah.. Wenoopy, my alter ego on another motor racing forum.
Derived from an Oz attempt at pronouncing Whenuapai, with spelling by me. I doubt that if I was confronted with Oodnadatta, Murwillumbah, or Nuriootpa, I would have produced something as melodious as Wenoopy.
Produced in the livery of a well-known NZ brand of tea.
No, the ex-Lawrence BT6, which then went to Laurence Brownlie and the usual string of owners before Bill Smith. IIRC it was converted back from FF spec and raced with a twincam in Historics by Wayne Rodgers and then Paul Higgins before going to Australia
stubuchanan wrote:My apologies for being a little careless several posts ago. If I had looked a bit more closely, I would have seen that Moloney's name was always spelled correctly in any programmes I have, and perhaps only Vercoe got it wrong. I don't have any newspaper clippings for this period, and I'm not sure Moloney's name would have appeared very often, if at all.
In my personal case I find that many people can mis-spell and mispronounce both of my names, and like Eoin Young, I have spelled out my name for people and then watched them write it down wrongly! And it was happening long before the Internet or texting!
Stu (Stuart) Buchanan
You'd be amazed at the number of people who think my name's McKinley. Yet when I did a check of London phone-books a few years ago I found - to my surprise - that there were far more McKinneys than McKinleys or McKinlays
I knew Peter Moloney when he was racing a Mini, and once or twice stayed in his parents' motel in Auckland. He was subsequently in the same unit as me when we did our National Service in 1966. He was always Moloney
I am not questioning your knowledge David, but you say the Bill Smith car was a BT6. In the reprint of the Baypark programme (post#130) it is entered as a BT15.
stubuchanan wrote:Ah.. Wenoopy, my alter ego on another motor racing forum. Derived from an Oz attempt at pronouncing Whenuapai, with spelling by me. I doubt that if I was confronted with Oodnadatta, Murwillumbah, or Nuriootpa, I would have produced something as melodious as Wenoopy.
Produced in the livery of a well-known NZ brand of tea.
Stu
Try this one Stu, FENUAPIE. Better be careful, the PC brigade could be onto us!!!!!
David McKinney wrote:No, the ex-Lawrence BT6, which then went to Laurence Brownlie and the usual string of owners before Bill Smith. IIRC it was converted back from FF spec and raced with a twincam in Historics by Wayne Rodgers and then Paul Higgins before going to Australia
Surprisingly, Graham Vercoe agrees with you in his "Golden Era" book : ( re March 1970 Pukekohe metting) "Bill Smith had acquired Roy Lyme's Brabham after its rebuild from the crash it suffered at Pukekohe.."
rf84 wrote:I am not questioning your knowledge David, but you say the Bill Smith car was a BT6. In the reprint of the Baypark programme (post#130) it is entered as a BT15.
Everyone got Brabham BT numbers wrong back in the day
In fact I once bought a Brabham (in Hawke's Bay) that wasn't a Brabham at all...
