Photos: The Bill Pottinger Collection - Part 1

[Allan]

Thank you for that. And I well remember the fuss associated with race/rally cars here for a season.

[Kwaussie]

To be fair to Mr Griffiths, his was not the first "start money special" to grace a race series!

Mr G went on to race a few McLaren cars on his return to the UK worth a google!

[Michael Clark]

And I thought a Lola T190 F5000

[Kwaussie]

Of course this was an era where a few people had nefarious intentions in coming to NZ, there was at least one early Formula A/5000 car which apparently arrived here with more than spare parts concealed inside it!

Be interesting if Bill P has a photo of Bobby Brown taking the right front wheel off from his T190 while exiting the pits at Teretonga during practice 1971

Great photos Bill - hope you don't mind as we wander off and recall the past!!

[David McKinney]

Of course this was an era where a few people had nefarious intentions in coming to NZ, there was at least one early Formula A/5000 car which apparently arrived here with more than spare parts concealed inside it!

Not to mention the two American 5000s which arrived with their side-tanks packed with drugs...

[John McKechnie]

Bill, I am trouble finding the mag now. My memory of it was about Minis in Feb 1969 Motorman- does that sound correct?

[Kwaussie]

Not to mention the two American 5000s which arrived with their side-tanks packed with drugs...

Did they smell nice when they fired them up!

[Steve Holmes]

Although originally Part 1 of this thread was only going to have 24 photos in it (because Bill had sent me a cd containing 48 photos), he has since emailed me through several more photos, so I kept extending the thread. But this will be the last photo from this part, before I begin Part 2 shortly. And to end Part 1, is the photo that headed up this thread, of Ulf Norinder, at speed, in his magnificent Lola at Teretonga. What a beautiful photo!

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My thanks again to Bill for sharing this incredible collection with us.

[John McKechnie]

The next two pics were taken at a Gold Star event at Ruapuna in October 1969. Can anyone help ID these interesting vehicles?

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At last, finally found this-F.Turner Alfa Romeo Special from p.29 Motorman July 1968.
David Mckinney- you had the correct man.
Doesnt figure in the results.

[Michael Clark]

I'm far from an engineer or aerodynamics expert, but the Lola T190 just looks wrong to me

[Grant Sprague]

Not wrong there , might have been set up for pikes peak .......... elllch should not judge

[Steve Holmes]

I'm far from an engineer or aerodynamics expert, but the Lola T190 just looks wrong to me

That one in particular Michael, or T190s in general?

[Steve Holmes]

At last, finally found this-F.Turner Alfa Romeo Special from p.29 Motorman July 1968.
David Mckinney- you had the correct man.
Doesnt figure in the results.

Great stuff John, thanks.

[Michael Clark]

To be fair Steve, my comment is made with the benefit of knowing they were duds in period - it was only when Frank Gardner lengthened the wheelbase, and created the T192 in doing so, that the car 'came good'.

But the short wheelbase just looks wrong - but Eric Broadley must have had a theory...

[David McKinney]

Ulf Norinder had raced a Lola T142 before bringing the T190 to NZ. In answer to my question as to how they compared, he said "Night and day". At the time I thought he meant the T190 was better

[Rod Grimwood]

l thought for a minute , Gary doing a wet slid but no wipers on car, could have been mercury series as door not fitting correctly [alloy doors & bonnet] ps Gary would often do this on our city streets in the same car be fore it became a race car................lil bro

Must have been trained by same person Grant. A few years later on at BP, different car but common pose in Escorts. They were fun.

[Michael Clark]

[Steve Holmes]

This is interesting to me, I didn't realise the T190 wasn't a good car. What was wrong with them?

[John McKechnie]

Steve- At the time I remember reading that this was an early stage of F5000, especially at Tasman Series.
As such some Indianopolis type cars were used- like Eisert Chev.
Big oval cars and not very nimble.
McLarens soon changed that.
Some one with more knowledge than me can fill in more fully and correctly

[Steve Holmes]

Yes thats right John, in early Formula A/F5000 years, converted USAC cars were commonly raced. But the T190 was a purpose built Formula A/F5000 chassis. My basic understanding is that it wasn't so much a direct evolution of the T142, which itself was an evolution of the T140, but it must have shared many similarities? The T140 was created from the outset for Formula A/F5000.