Photos: The Allan Cameron Collection - Part 1

[Oldfart]

Big cut aways on the rear guards! The Mk1 Consul and Zephyr do have subtle differences, wheelbase is different for one. By the time the Mark 2 came they shared the body shell, but according to owners groups the MK1 is different. (Rivet counter/anorak)
When did Ivan Cranch, previously mentioned start with his one. It was certainly at early Pukekohe meetings.

[bob homewood]

Saloon car photos , no 69 (A40 ) defiantly Murray Reynolds ,63 the (A35 ) is Ken Kaye from Rotorua ,I was there with him,likewise was with Wes Marshall 59 ( as David has said ),I think the Mini with the yellow bonnet is Roy Harrington .60 (Mini ) is Tim Parker ,the Mk1 Zehpyr with the cut out guards possibly Spinner Black,the 67 Lotus Cortina is Joe Hayes .David might know the Chev Coupe could be a chap by the name of Ward from Wellington,Jaguar is John Ward ? the Anglia behind the minis going on the colour Tony Lawrence ,long time ago but I think that is how I remember it

[David McKinney]

#30 White A30 chasing may be John Windleburn ?

No, about six years too late for that combination

[David McKinney]

David might know the Chev Coupe could be a chap by the name of Ward from Wellington,Jaguar is John Ward? The Anglia behind the minis going on the colour Tony Lawrence ,long time ago but I think that is how I remember it

Keith Ward did run a Chev coupé, but my memory is it was an older model, and rougher than the car in the picture, and I don't remember him ever taking it far from Wellington. Agree about John Ward, but not sure about Tony Lawrence. I only remember his Anglia in Molyslip colours the following season - no mental image of it in 1963/64

[Steve Holmes]

Saloon car photos , no 69 (A40 ) defiantly Murray Reynolds ,63 the (A35 ) is Ken Kaye from Rotorua ,I was there with him,likewise was with Wes Marshall 59 ( as David has said ),I think the Mini with the yellow bonnet is Roy Harrington .60 (Mini ) is Tim Parker ,the Mk1 Zehpyr with the cut out guards possibly Spinner Black,the 67 Lotus Cortina is Joe Hayes .David might know the Chev Coupe could be a chap by the name of Ward from Wellington,Jaguar is John Ward ? the Anglia behind the minis going on the colour Tony Lawrence ,long time ago but I think that is how I remember it

Bob, you beauty! Many thanks.

[Steve Holmes]

I've had to adjust the following images, with limited success, because they were quite dark.

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[Steve Holmes]

From the sports car race.

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[Steve Holmes]

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[bob homewood]

Well the No 27 Mini is Roy Harrington ,possibly confirms what I thought in the other photo, No 47 the MG Midget is Josh Mahon, Single Seaters ,Lotus no 22 is none other than one Roly Levis ,the Red no 25 possibly Rex Flowers also in a Lotus with Andy Buchanan on the far side ,the car on the second row far side Dene Hollier Cooper ,I think the car nearly obscured by the bushes at the very rear is the M & K Smith Lola

[David McKinney]

Agree about the front row. I think the other car on Row 2 might be Jim Boyd in the Valour (image discoloured by age?), then on the third row Slocombe (Lotus) behind the bushes, Bryan Thomas (Gemini) and Ken Sager (Lotus). The only other starter was Morrie Smith (Lola) but it doesn't look like that car right at the back. Perhpas, on looking again, you're right about Smith being hidden by the bushes, which would mean it's Slocombe at the back, but the car on the back of the grid doesn't look right for him, either...

[stubuchanan]

Agree about the front row. I think the other car on Row 2 might be Jim Boyd in the Valour (image discoloured by age?), then on the third row Slocombe (Lotus) behind the bushes, Bryan Thomas (Gemini) and Ken Sager (Lotus). The only other starter was Morrie Smith (Lola) but it doesn't look like that car right at the back. Perhpas, on looking again, you're right about Smith being hidden by the bushes, which would mean it's Slocombe at the back, but the car on the back of the grid doesn't look right for him, either...

Could the car at the very back row be Neil Whittaker's Cooper? He was a finisher in the main race. It looks a lighter coloured car and rear body looks too high for more modern cars. Car behind the bush must be the front-engined Lola of Smith. Colour of Valour looks about right - I will post a December 63 Puke photo for you.

Stu

[stubuchanan]

Could the car at the very back row be Neil Whittaker's Cooper? He was a finisher in the main race. It looks a lighter coloured car and rear body looks too high for more modern cars. Car behind the bush must be the front-engined Lola of Smith. Colour of Valour looks about right - I will post a December 63 Puke photo for you.

Stu

Pukekohe February 1964 actually, shot from old Stewards' stand.



Valour reappeared on a trailer with damaged bodywork a bit later. Not unusual for Boyd/Valour that season.

Stu Buchanan

[David McKinney]

Could the car at the very back row be Neil Whittaker's Cooper? He was a finisher in the main race. It looks a lighter coloured car and rear body looks too high for more modern cars. Car behind the bush must be the front-engined Lola of Smith. Colour of Valour looks about right - I will post a December 63 Puke photo for you.
Stu

The race in question was the so-called "Formula NZ" race, a year before anyone else sought to cash in on the growing number of 1500/1600/1650 cars racing at the time. I think the limit was 1600, so Whittaker's 2-litre Cooper would have been too big. My lap-chart has only nine cars passing me on the first lap... There were 12 entries, but Young (Cooper), Thomas (Barden) and Stone (Cooper 500) were supposedly all scratchings. Or the mystery car might be the Barden, which didn't make it as far as my position

I think the Valour was unpainted at its December 1963 Pukekohe debut, then BRG

[bob homewood]

David ,I had confirmation today from another source ,Young ,Thomas and Stone don't figure in their records of actually starting the race either ,apparently the Race was called Formula NZ and Formula 3 Cars ,I am no further with the coupe identity either

The race in question was the so-called "Formula NZ" race, a year before anyone else sought to cash in on the growing number of 1500/1600/1650 cars racing at the time. I think the limit was 1600, so Whittaker's 2-litre Cooper would have been too big. My lap-chart has only nine cars passing me on the first lap... There were 12 entries, but Young (Cooper), Thomas (Barden) and Stone (Cooper 500) were supposedly all scratchings. Or the mystery car might be the Barden, which didn't make it as far as my position

I think the Valour was unpainted at its December 1963 Pukekohe debut, then BRG

[Steve Holmes]

This is excellent info guys, many thanks.

[Steve Holmes]

OK, the photo in post #48 is the first in a sequence of four, as the cars take their places on the grid. I hope I haven't created any confusion by not posting these next photos sooner. You can see a marshall in that photo in post #48 signalling a driver to move into position on the second row.

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[Steve Holmes]

All in position now, and awaiting the starters signal.

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[Steve Holmes]

And the start.....

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[David McKinney]

All in position now, and awaiting the starters signal.

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Front row: Levis (nearest camera), Flowers, Buchanan
Second row: Boyd, Slocombe
Third row: Thomas, Sager, Hollier
Last row: Smith

That makes more sense...

[bob homewood]

That all makes sense to we as well