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Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by thunder427 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:28 pm

Dave Silcock wrote: . So in answer to your question, its in my work shop and driven by a chap who worked for me by the name of John Crew, otherwise known as Motley!


Dave,John Crew/'Motley',just love it,..in the 80's was asked to pre-purchase a Panel-van for a three Kiwi's,who were arriving in Melbourne to travel to Perth,this was done quite easily as we opperated from a Ford dealership,the guys concerned were Peter,and Paul and lets say David (cant remember his name correctly),had the XC van serviced,roadworthy,vans awaiting thier arrival...just happened to have the 'Signwriter' on board to sign a Formula Ford we had just redone,Sooooooo; got him to put 'PETER,PAUL and 'MARY' on tour!!!...on the Tail door,I have reason to believe he is still called 'MARY' to this day :D ......MJ :cool:

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by David McKinney » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:03 pm

Non-lecture:
The first streamlined Lotus sportscar was the MkVIII (1954). Its replacement was the MkIX (1955). Both were powered either by 1500 MG engines or, latterly, 1100cc Climax FWAs (and yes, there was a 1½-litre Connaught-engined car or two as well)

The MkX was built to take the bigger (2-litre) Bristol engine

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by stubuchanan » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:31 am

Thanks Dave, I'll have to chalk this up as a "first" - I asked a question and got an absolutely complete answer.

Mr McPherson was very likely right, it probably is a Mk X, I knew there was a photo of a similar Lotus, didn't know that both Mk IX and X had very much the same body . I'll probably get a lecture from D G McKinney now (see Post #24 above!)

Presume your "Crew-man" was driving the Masarrari as well. What a great-looking car it was and still is.

Stu

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by Dave Silcock » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:24 am

Hi Stu, I was lead to belive by Roddy Mac Phearson, who brought this car to NZ, that it was a Mk X, as you may have gathered I am more interested in the car than its history, so you may well be correct. This was Roderick's second visit to our shores, and having dis posed of the ex Ken Wharton, ahem, Cooper Bristol to Jim Boult,thought he was on to a good thing and brought out this device to unload on to some gullible colonial. My company was preparing nearly all the Bristol engined cars in this country, and had in fact been looking after the Cooper Bristol for Roddy the previous season. So we were involved with this car from its arrival from the UK. At that stage it was red and the body looked some what akin to a bag of walnuts. He suceeded in selling it to a Robin Saville who sad to say took his own life, and Bill Clark bought it from his estate. As a partner in Auto Restorations he pretty soon had the body rebuilt and engaged us in the mechanical side of things. We built a hybrid 2 litre, 2.2 litre motor with the longer stroke crank but the standard bore and one of our big valve heads. It also had what the poms call the Silcock camshaft, in fact a BCF 2 Cosworth, but what would they know. Bill's son James drove it with great vigour as well as the Mk1 Cooper Bristol the Bill also owned. I once drove both cars on the same day at Wigram and could not believe the benefit of the Lotus body shape. It went back to the UK and was driven at some stage by Soames Langton. So in answer to your question, its in my work shop and driven by a chap who worked for me by the name of John Crew, otherwise known as Motley!

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:13 am

Something along those lines.

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by Oldfart » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:26 am

Are they saying, respectively "Shit", "oh dear" and "Thanks Dave" ? From right to left.

The cropped version

by markec » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:21 am

Giving the slow Max Pedington a push.1 u.jpg

Trying to get a better look at the expressions on the faces
I've almost suceeded

It's A Lotus Mk 9

by stubuchanan » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:08 am

markec wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]12654[/ATTACH]


If you left-click on the photo it will tell you it's a Lotus-Bristol.

The Lotus Mk 9 body had quite exaggerated tail-fins. This one has a big bonnet hump to accomodate the tall Bristol 6-cylinder (like the Cooper Bristol single-seater) and has cut-away front wheel arches and no rear-wheel spat. I don't know if all Lotus-Bristols were like this one, and the body dates from before Frank Costin's involvement in Lotus aerodynamics.

Question : Who and where and when?

Stu

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:45 am

Ex Bira ERA  u.jpg

ERA
Rob Whitehouse Wellington u.jpg

Rob Whitehouse Wellington

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:39 am

Lotus Bristol u.jpg

?
Masarari u.jpg

Masarari
Cooper.jpg

Cooper Vincent

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by David McKinney » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:47 am

markec wrote:Leon Witte, DB3 Wigram.

That's not a DB3, it's a DB3S :)
(Quite different models)

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:54 am

Wigram u.jpg

Wigram Wings and Wheels
XK 1c.jpg

XK120
Manfield 2u.jpg

Manfield Dummy grid
Manfield.jpg

Manfield Dummy grid.

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:43 am

Giving the slow Max Pedington a push.2.jpg

Giving the slow Max Pennington a helping hand, much to the delight of Mr Halliday
who is about to gain 2 places.
With Alan Boyle u.jpg

With Alan Boyle at what looks like Levin
Timaru u1.jpg

Taken at Timaru

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:36 am

Cooper Wellington u.jpg

Cooper Vincent Wellington
Ducati Pantha Wigram u.jpg

Ducati Pantha Wigram
Les Wright, Roddy McPherson, Sam Johnson.jpg

Les Wright, Roddy McPherson, Sam Johnson

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by Chris Read » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:01 am

Would be easier to just call him Borat.
R12B (Hanumann 11) has the round mirrors and R2B (Romulus) has the scuttle mounted faired mirrors like the screen fairing.
Chris Read - Arrowtown

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by markec » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:53 am

The fresh untested Frank Bryan Mustang that went on to be the Red Dawson car.
Leon Witte, DB3S Wigram.
Levin in the ex Harrington car
Attachments
Levin u.jpg
Leon Witte DB3 2.jpg
Frank Bryan Mustang.jpg

Cooper at Wellinton, Millen at a Malasian GP with the Schollen Bros and Dave

by markec » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:47 am

Cooper, Wellington.jpg
Millan at Malasia u.jpg

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by Dave Silcock » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:29 am

There is more to come, Mark is going to post some more, the ERA shots are at Ruapuna.

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by Steve Holmes » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:34 pm

Fantastic photos Dave, thanks for sharing. Where were those ERA photos taken? Is that Timaru?

Re: Photo's from Dave Silcock

by David McKinney » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:54 pm

R2B was retained for many years by Prince Chula Chakrabongse, grandson of King Chulalongkorn (of King and I fame) and cousin of Prince Birabongse Bhanudej Bhanubandh, and after Chula's death by other members of his family. It returned to the circuits in 1976 owned by his daughter, Narisa Chakrabongse, but usually driven by Bill Morris. Narisa Levy (as she was by then) still owned it in 2006, but it is now with Greg Whitten in the US of A

The original 'Hanuman' was R12C, wrecked in 1939. It was rebuilt the same year as R12B, raced by Bira in the '40s and by Bill Morris from 1962-98, then Tony Stephens, who continued to drive it for its new owner into this century. It is now owned by Phra Bat Somdet Phra Poramintharamaha Bhumibol Adulyadej Mahitalathibet Ramathibodi Chakkrinaruebodin Sayamminthrathirat Borommanatbophit, otherwise known as King Bhumipol of Thailand

In the 1970s Morris reconstructed R12C on its original chassis, and raced it through the 1980s, then passing the driving chores to Tony Stephens through the 1990s. It has been owned for the past few years by Terrry Crabb

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