The Roaring Season

by **mskgs** » Tue May 30, 2017 9:17 am

Bob Wilson was my uncle and died in 1968. He donated the NZ Motor Cup in the 1950s to the NZ Grand Prix.
I've only just realised that Bruce McLAREN was in the Wilson Home - where Bob grew up himself.
He was a kind, humorous man - taught his nieces/nephews/grandchildren how to play poker as youngsters in the early 60s.

by **stubuchanan** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:42 am

MarkD wrote:Minutes after posting the previous comment I find this one - http://www.localhistoryonline.org.nz/cgi-bin/PUI?a=d&d=waim-JTD-01K-04472-1 - which gives the date of the 1922 race as 1 march 1922, so the car burnt in November can't be the Craig (ex Jellicoe) Twin Six.

According to "Flat to the Boards" by Dick Messenger (and Douglas Wood) the 1922 NZ Motor Cup was run on 11 March 1922. It was scheduled for 25 February, but was postponed due to bad weather, and the next suitable tide was a fortnight later.

This book came out in 1986 and is a comprehensive record of NZ motor racing up to 1940. Quite probably many of the pictures in this thread are also in the book. I must have a good look.

Stu Buchanan

by **MarkD** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:57 am

Minutes after posting the previous comment I find this one - http://www.localhistoryonline.org.nz/cgi-bin/PUI?a=d&d=waim-JTD-01K-04472-1 - which gives the date of the 1922 race as 1 march 1922, so the car burnt in November can't be the Craig (ex Jellicoe) Twin Six.

by **John H** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:57 am

I went to the Muriwai beach racing 1954 as a child. I touched the wheel of the George Smith car and he told me off as sand may get into the engine. They stopped racing just as we arrived as the sand had cut up too much. If only I had taken some photos.

All very clear in my mind and the real disappointment when they stopped racing.

by **MarkD** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:42 am

Re the Packard raced by Selwyn Craig, I was doing some research on Twin Sixes in NZ and found the article in the Evening Post which mentions what I presume is the same car. It was November 1922 - https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19221115.2.56?query=valuable car I wonder what date in 1922 the motor Cup race was held. Unless this was another Twin Six going up in flames.

by **MarkD** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:36 am

Actually it was third in 1915, driven by Gil Anderson.

by **Howard Wood** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:09 am

Indeed, the Muriwai beach races were contested for the NZ Motor Cup. One of the odd rules around the cup was that if anyone won the cup 3 times they held it in perpetuity. Bob Wilson who's family were the Wilsons of Wilson and Horton the NZ Herald publishers and also the Wilson Home fame (where Bruce McLaren spent part of his childhood) won 3 times in a row with his Stutz.

Subsequently his estate bequeathed the cup back to be awarded to the winner of the NZ Grand Prix.

The Stutz is of course the star attraction at the Southward museum. Before arriving in NZ it had placed 3rd in the 1919 at Indy.

by **Spgeti** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:27 am

What fantastic heritage for Alan.

by **Steve Holmes** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:02 am

This is William M Boyle, father of Alan Boyle, of Coke Viva fame.

This is from Alan:

"This is a photo of my father William M Boyle Sitting in the 'Cadillac V8' of Bert Shorter #25 and according to my dad this was in 1923 which was the 3rd year of the NZ Motor Cup races. . William Boyle finished 4th place in the 1st NZ Motor Cup in 1921 driving Mr Carlyon's 'Cadillac V8' which was a road car minus running boards and fenders .. I have only recently discovered this fact and am proud of him .. 'The NZ Motor Cup' is the same one the NZIGP races for today .. in Dads 1st Cup Race the winner Nattrass averaged 88 MPH.. meaning they traveled in excess of 100MPH (161 KPH) on the tricky sand of a wind blown beach."

by **Steve Holmes** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:20 am

Wow, I am blown away, these are outstanding! Thanks for sharing Bry.

by **bry3500** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:43 am

John McKechnie wrote:One of my customers has the makings of 3 Chandlers- wonder if#19 ended up with him

As a Packard man, my favourite is #4- the Packard- and it is a V12-double 6.
Update - the car won the Cup in 1922 and exists today as a Tourer, heres the link to a survivor and its history

http://www.southpacificpackards.org.nz/uploads/75263/files/May_June_Twin_6.pdf

Also heres a list of winners -

1921 Muriwai Howard Nattrass Cadillac
1921 Muriwai Howard Nattrass Cadilla
1922 Muriwai Selwyn Craig Packard
1923 Muriwai Seabrook Fowlds Vauxhall
1924 Muriwai Howard Nattrass Mercer
1925 Muriwai C.W (Bill).F. Hamilton Sunbeam
1926 Muriwai R.B. Wilson Stutz
1927 Muriwai R.B. Wilson Stutz
1928 Muriwai R.B. Wilson Stutz

From 1922

by **Spgeti** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:30 am

Bloody brave men....

by **John McKechnie** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:27 am

Taken from southpacific packards- heres part of the race-

In the race Craig got away to a bad start having no first gear. But by the end of the
first lap of twelve and a half miles, he had passed all the field except the Hudson
and reached the corner at too high a speed. That combined with the length of the
Packard forced him into a double spin. Although he didn't come to a compete stop
it did cost him time. But Chandler got into the soft sand and at the second turn the
Hudson and the Packard had left the field behind. Another spin from the Packard
left the Hudson half a mile ahead, but the Baby Grand was catching up fast. The
Hudson still in the lead overheated and started to slow, allowing the Packard to
pass, followed by a Cadillac. Craig crossed the finish line doing over 100mph disappearing
off down the beach from were he eventually returned to receive the victor’s
laurels. His average speed was 76mph.
During the race the oil boiled in the Packard gearbox owing to the heat generated
by the high speed of the shafts. The riding mechanic had to hold the lever in gear

!922- 100 mph on the sand...........

by **John McKechnie** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:00 am

Spgeti wrote:I really love this old stuff and makes you wonder do any of these cars exist today. Thanks for posting.

One of my customers has the makings of 3 Chandlers- wonder if#19 ended up with him

As a Packard man, my favourite is #4- the Packard- and it is a V12-double 6.
Update - the car won the Cup in 1922 and exists today as a Tourer, heres the link to a survivor and its history

http://www.southpacificpackards.org.nz/uploads/75263/files/May_June_Twin_6.pdf

Also heres a list of winners -

1921 Muriwai Howard Nattrass Cadillac
1921 Muriwai Howard Nattrass Cadilla
1922 Muriwai Selwyn Craig Packard
1923 Muriwai Seabrook Fowlds Vauxhall
1924 Muriwai Howard Nattrass Mercer
1925 Muriwai C.W (Bill).F. Hamilton Sunbeam
1926 Muriwai R.B. Wilson Stutz
1927 Muriwai R.B. Wilson Stutz
1928 Muriwai R.B. Wilson Stutz

by **bry3500** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:55 am

This one is not from the Bill Tinson collection. Captioned 1926
Showing Hope Bartletts Sunbeam leading R B Wilson in the Stutz

by **John McKechnie** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:34 am

I agree completely- this is great.
Our family had a farm at Muriwai, I remember the beach and road scrambles 1957.
This is really a long time ago and it must have been a real sight to see these doing it on the sand before any sealed race track
No permit required I presume.........

by **Spgeti** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:06 am

I really love this old stuff and makes you wonder do any of these cars exist today. Thanks for posting.

by **bry3500** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:24 am

20 The Bean motor racing team enjoying a picnic lunch in front of their car at Muriwai beach. Gordon Harris is on the right.
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7595'

21 F G Farrell at the wheel of a Talbot 12 hp racing car on Muriwai Beach. Fast but unreliable - it overturned. 1924.
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7600

22 Racing cars at the start of the New Zealand Motor Cup (unlimited class) on Muriwai Beach
'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7599

23 F G Farrell's 11.9 hp Bean racing car entering Muriwai Beach across rough rocks. Farrel was placed second.
'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7603

24 F G Farrell's Bean racing car parked on grass at Muriwai Beach, with a Standard 9.5 hp car in the background
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7602

25 Showing gearbox parts on the floor of the Auckland Motor Company workshop in Wyndham Street. A Talbot car can be seen in the background.
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7644

by **bry3500** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:16 am

13 W Ah Chee's Cadillac and F G Farrell's Bean racing car parked on grass at Muriwai Beach 1922
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7588

14 Motor racing fans and a car on Muriwai beach
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7589

15 W Boyle? at the wheel of a Meteor racing car on Muriwai Beach
'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7590

16 John and Phil Seabrook in their Jewett racing car on Muriwai Beach
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7592

17 Two men inspecting F G Farrell's (unsuccessful) Talbot 12 hp racing car on Muriwai Beach, with a Buick (right) and a Durant (left) 1923
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7594

18 Showing a Meteor racing car and other vehicles at Muriwai Beach
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7598

19 Billy Miller's Chandler racing car at Muriwai Beach
'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7597

by **bry3500** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:53 am

7 Showing a small crowd gathered around Mr W Ah Chee's Cadillac (driven by Mr W Boyle) on Muriwai Beach
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7584

8 John W Andrew's Model-T Ford, very much modified, being examined on Muriwai Beach after the the engine took in sand and seized up 1923 'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7591

9 Showing one of a few purpose-built Ford racing cars (it did not race) parked on grass at Muriwai Beach
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7585

10 Showing a small crowd examining racing cars on Muriwai Beach. The car in the foreground is a 9.5 hp Standard; adjacent is a Bean (no.20), with its driver F G Farrell (hatless) leaning into the cockpit; in the background is a Universal Motor Company Ford.
Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7586

11 Showing a small group of men standing next to a Talbot 12 hp racing car on Muriwai Beach. F G Farrell of the Auckland Motor Company is in the driver's seat. 1923 .
'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7587

12 Howard Natrass winner of the first New Zealand Motor Cup at the wheel of his Cadillac on Muriwai beach. A stripped touring Cadillac in the background entered by Mr Carlyon of Guavas, Tikokino , Hawke's Bay, driven by Mr W Boyle came fourth. Theis was the first race in New Zealand to be timed electrically, by a rig imported from London by a club official. 1921.
'Sir George Grey Special Collections, Auckland Libraries, 7-A7604

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