Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

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Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Ray Bell » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:57 pm

Originally posted by Steve Holmes
Thanks for that info Myles. So was the Corvair outlawed by CAMS, rather than voluntarily retired by Gardner?
Seeing as this has gone unanswered...

The Corvair was a bit of a stretch of the rules as it was, also true of the Thomson VW-Chev. They were hardly 'F5000s with bodies on top', however, though they naturally enough used F5000 running gear.

A previous 'wild' Sports Sedan which 'tested' the rules was the Laws brothers' Mini with Holden engine beside the driver and powering the front wheels via a VW gearbox. This sort of thing led to the regulations being formed and re-formed to suit the direction in which it was wanted that the class would progress.

Yes, it was a CAMS edict which led to the demolition of Tom Nailard's dream car. And led, directly or indirectly, to a rash of Alfetta GT lookalikes to keep the engines and transmissions in the right place with a suitable wheelbase ...etc.

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by bry3500 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:38 am

[video]http://autopartsandequipment.com/zac-brown-offers-mostert-drive-in-moffats-monza/?fbclid=IwAR2K2V0y-khltxqrJYoEUUIFbEcg8oy23x8E22aVDjDTzVOXHgxnfEpKn0w[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:04 pm

Yep, thats right Tony, its the Supra, which was formerly the Bob Jane Monza. Its actually just undergone a big rebuild as well, although back to its Supra guise, not rebuilt back to the Monza.

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by TonyG » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:00 pm

what is the car behind ? supra?

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:38 pm

Great to see the Holden Dealer Team Beast III is nearing completion of its restoration. The Torana is owned by the Wall family, and was raced by Des Wall in the 80s, and is part of a great collection of historic cars the family owns, including the Pete Geoghegan Mustang GTA, Bob Jane HQ Monaro, and Bob Jane/Bryan Thomson Chevy Monza which was re-bodied into a Toyota Supra in the 1990s. Such a shame Des Wall is no longer around to see this great car return to the track.

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Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by bry3500 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:33 am

[video=youtube;KMjz_D3GVkc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMjz_D3GVkc[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Yeah yeah na » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:55 pm

Nasty fire, good on the guys for sticking with it to get it out!

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by bry3500 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:45 pm

[video=youtube;9srHj9V9mVI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9srHj9V9mVI&feature=related[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by bry3500 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:24 pm

[video=youtube;l04XX0p1fYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04XX0p1fYI[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by rogered » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:27 pm

Ya Know that photo says a lot about the cars (and drivers)
Off my head i dont know the result, but Gardner is a season world class pro in effectivley a fairly current F5000 with a body on top., BEHIND a "home made" front engined driven car by a Weekend Amature (albeit a pretty good one) The combo right behind is about the same.

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:32 pm

Thanks for that info Myles. So was the Corvair outlawed by CAMS, rather than voluntarily retired by Gardner? Gardner had Grice in a BMW for 1980.

Here is Gardner in the Corvair at Bay Park, in late 1976, during its NZ visit, chasing Jack Nazers Victor Chevy.

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Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by thunder427 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:31 pm

[quote="gazza"]Here's a couple of pic's for the collection

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..Guy with back to the Camera,Mick 'Spiderman' Webb, talking to the late John Anderson,who went on to be very sucessfull in the USA motorsport world......thunder427/MJ :cool:

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by bry3500 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:10 am

[video=youtube;QE0MuHhkBQ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE0MuHhkBQ0&feature=related[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:26 pm

Part 2:

[video=youtube;NnA0WJCKebE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnA0WJCKebE&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:25 pm

Plus some related video which I must have watched 100 times!

Part 1:

[video=youtube;e77wOVQqRXY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e77wOVQqRXY&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:24 pm

Part 2:

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After its encouraging debut, the ambitious plans for 1975 didn’t quite pan out. The car was to run the full Oran Park and Calder series’, but appearances and results were spasmodic and the Monaro suffered a spate of mechanical failures. Over the offseason the car was rebuilt, and underwent a radical transformation with the addition of huge box flared guards, and broad full-width rear spoiler, which made the already big car look even larger. Also, the nose of the Monaro was reverted back to earlier HQ guise, as demanded by CAMS, as the HJ model wasn’t available as standard with the 350ci Chevy motor.

For 1976, the Confederation for Australian Motorsport (CAMS) announced Sports Sedans would finally get Australian championship recognition, and a 7 round national championship was conducted. Geoghegan missed round 1, but finished second in round 2 at Sandown, behind Allan Moffats new IMSA DeKon Monza, beating the Monza in the second heat. Mechanical failures at the next two rounds brought no points, while a troubled round 5 at Adelaide netted fifth. And that was the last appearance the car made in the ’76 ASSC. Geoghegan made two appearances in the 1976 Marlboro series at Calder Park, finishing second to Frank Gardners rapid new Chev Corvair in round 3, while not making the finish in the opening round.

The car was fast, and there was no doubting Geoghegans ability behind the wheel, but the project had been a series of frustrations that fell well short of its potential.

At the end of the season, O’Neil put the Monaro on the market, and was purchased by current Australian V8 Supercar team owner Garry Rogers, to replace his rapid Ford Escort. The Monaro was raced throughout the 1970s and into the ‘80s by various owners, before eventually being retired. Amazingly, the car was modified little beyond its 1976 configuration, although mechanical components were replaced at various times.

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Big Pete Geoghegans wild Monaro is currently undergoing a full restoration, thankfully to its original, and more appealing, 1975 configuration.

Thanks to Roaring Season members Ellis and Faminz for their contributions to this thread.

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Steve Holmes » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:21 pm

One of the best, and most exciting of the earlier Aussie Sports Sedans was the HQ/HJ Monaro raced by Pete Geoghegan throughout the 1975 and '76 Australian Sports Sedan Championships. Here is an article I wrote about the car for The Roaring Season last year:

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History has produced a number of burley racing cars, just as it has a number of burley racing drivers. But big Aussie Ian ‘Pete’ Geoghegan, and his booming HJ Monaro sports sedan were an effective, memorable combination, that combined both. For two spectacular seasons, in 1975 and ’76, Geoghegan and his Monaro were a formidable combination and crowd favorite.

Geoghegan had taken a step back in his motor racing efforts following the conclusion of the 1972 Australian Touring Car Championship. Having won the ATCC five times by that stage, he sold his powerful but often ill-handling XY GT Falcon, the last car he’d contested the old outgoing Improved Production category with, and would spend the rest of an erratic racing career driving other peoples cars.

With the rapid emergence in Australia of Sports Sedan racing in the early 1970s, and the rich prize purses on offer, teams scrambled to build ever-more radical machinery to take advantage of the relaxed rules, and steal a share of the rewards. Oran Park, near Sydney, was the first race track in Australia to fully embrace the wild Sports Sedan machines, and in 1972 they announced a 5 round series at the track, with menswear brand Toby Lee and the Grace Bros department store chain tipping in A$15,000 prize money. The following year, they doubled their investment to $30,000.

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Geoghegan entered the Toby Lee series in 1973, driving a Porsche 911 owned by wealthy businessman Laurie O’Neil. The sophisticated little Porsche’s were formidable on the challenging Oran Park layout against the V8 competition, and 911 pilot Bill Brown almost won the series. But O’Neil knew he’d have to invest heavily for 1974, to give Geoghegan any chance against opposition that was both more purposeful, and expensive, and set about having John Sheppard build him a new Holden HQ Monaro coupe. Sheppard had already built a number of very successful racing sedans, including Geoghegans ATCC winning (1966, 67, 68, 69) Mustangs, and Bob Janes HQ Monaro and ATCC winning (1971, 72) ZL1 Camaro.

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by jnr356 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:26 am

great memories,thanks for the pics :cool:

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by Ellis » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:23 am

The photos that Gazza has kindly posted belong to Perry Drury here in Launceston Tas.
He had them professionally converted at great expense and a credit showing him as the photographer
wouldnt go amiss.

Ellis

Re: Australian Sports Sedans Database - Histories And Whereabouts

by bry3500 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:05 am

Great thread and pics on the Gardner Corvair
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=173453

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