Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

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Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Oldfart » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:15 am

It was definitely a Continental when I saw it the first day it went to Ruapuna.
I suspect the discussion came about as both of the other well known aero engined cars (Ralph Watson and the RA) had Lycomings. Superficially there are similarities, ie flat engines, light, air cooled ex aircraft, but that's about where it stops.

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by chaindrive » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:58 pm

Lycoming and Continental are 2 separate beings. I believe the special is powered by Continental (Ex Cessna).How Lycoming came to be linked is a mystery??????

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Oldfart » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:19 pm

On the FB page there are folks questioning why it was Continental and not called Lycoming, hmmm do you think the builder knew?

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Roger Dowding » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:28 am

chaindrive wrote:Roger, Check Motorsport History in Miniature
Tony


Ha Ha , knew you would - have been away from TRS for 10 days and it was a hard punishment for going on holiday with little Internet access .. looking now !! cheers Roger

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by chaindrive » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:05 am

Roger, Check Motorsport History in Miniature
Tony

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Roger Dowding » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:22 am

Chaindrive - is building a model of the car at the moment - no doubt photos will follow - If he doesn't post them I will !! ehh !! Tony

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by bry3500 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:41 am

[video=youtube;0N-u8UNxY54]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N-u8UNxY54[/video]

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Steve Holmes » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:38 am

Great photo Bry.

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Michael Clark » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:35 am

Still in Riverton

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by bry3500 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:50 am

from FB
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Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by bry3500 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:06 pm

found these on FB
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Bill datlan, is seen driving the car in photo #2 of the first post , yellow helmet.

by Rascal » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:59 am

bry3500 wrote:Extraordinary car powered by a 7.7 litre Continental 180 engine from a Cessna
Both Turtill and Mullholland were killed in a road accident.
I read somewhere the car had survived
Any info ???
.

Bill Datlan can be seen in photo#2 , yellow helmet, probably around 1995 at a levels or Ruapuna Vcc sprint event.

Just a point or two, Bill Datlans mother was Tyrrells sister, so Bill being the only nephew of tyrrell , got first option on acquiring both the continental & the Cadillac, as mentioned by a young peter Datlan elsewhere in the discussion.

Bill Datlans major change to the car during his ownership was adding coil ignition for starting which afterwards switched over to the original magnetos. also some finishing off of some bodywork & hardware .
After many years of ownership & some " occasional demonstration only" laps, Bill Datlan sold the car to Bill Cowie,
of Ch Ch, who had intended to maybe race in Vcc or classic events.

But there were some Hurdles & requirements.
As the car had NO reverse gear & only one Disc brake [ for the rear braking] rotor & caliper next to the chain driven rear axle, & after putting it off for years, Bill Cowie , as recently as early last year, 2014; Had the car back in Mid Canterbury having a clutch & flywheel fitted in series to the Torque converter, to enable some nuterallity when idleing , also an extra small , low geared starter motor fitted which engages a ring gear to provide a reverse , something the car has never previously had .

As mentioned, Smaller Parts of the Bodywork & fittings had also never been completely finished off by Tyrrell & Gary M, they were always in a hurry to get to the track or the Pub, but later on Bill Datlan Had these & other things taken care of by yours truly.


Its great news that Noel Atley may now have the car & we may see it driven accordingly.

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by seaqnmac27 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:01 am

Just a note from Judy Glen, nee Turtill. She was asking after the car as it is soon to be Tyrell and Judy's Mothers 100 birthday. I passed on this thread to her and Judy passed on the comment of the sad irony that the Christchurch earthquake occurred on the anniversary of Tyrell's death

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by alwylie » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:49 am

I saw the Continental Special doing standing 1/4 mile runs at Ruapuna around 1969-70. It was, at that time, able to remain stationary with the engine running but only just. I remember it tended to push the locked front wheels along while staging and with its single speed, torque converter transmission the engine note remained almost constant throughout the 1/4 mile run.
In one of the photos at the beginning of this thread there is a group of people standing in front of a red and white car. It's a 1955 Pontiac station wagon, a distinctive and rare vehicle I used to see around Christchurch without knowing who owned it. Years after Tyrell Turtill's death, my friend and flatmate, John Britten, told me it had been Tyrell's car. The two had got to know each other when they were both studying engineering at Christchurch Polytechnic. One of the things John liked about Tyrell was that "he was always trying to do the impossible", something which could also be said about John. To illustrate his point, John told me the Pontiac had once broken a half shaft and Tyrell had mended it by Easyfloing (silver soldering) the broken parts together and then doing skids on some gravel to demonstrate the strength of the repair!
Much later, I read in a magazine a sad tale about the Pontiac's ultimate fate. It seems it fell into the hands of someone who wanted its V8 engine for a hot rod. The details elude me now but I think the engine was installed in a rod but then left sitting out in the weather with no air cleaner so water got in and ruined it. The rest of the car was similarly neglected and ended up being scrapped.

continental

by Royce » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:22 am

Glenn.sparrow wrote:Hi Petey,

Its amazing to see that people are still interested in the Continental. Seeing the car at Ruapuna for the filming day we did for the play will remain a high point of my life.

Even better is knowing it survived all the crap we have been through in CHristchurch over the last few years.

I'd love to bring my son along to see it race one day if you ever hear of it going on a track.

i can be contacted via http://www.blueted.co.nz

Glenn


The continental has been purchased by Noel Atley gone to a very good home in the deep south
royce

Where is it now?

by Glenn.sparrow » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:40 am

Hi Petey,

Its amazing to see that people are still interested in the Continental. Seeing the car at Ruapuna for the filming day we did for the play will remain a high point of my life.

Even better is knowing it survived all the crap we have been through in CHristchurch over the last few years.

I'd love to bring my son along to see it race one day if you ever hear of it going on a track.

i can be contacted via http://www.blueted.co.nz

Glenn

Petey wrote:Hey guys great to see so much interest in my dads old car!

I'm Petey son of Bill Datlen. Dad brought the car off our very close family friend Rita Tutel in 1990 along with a 1922 Cadillac also owned by the Turtels. My father was the first person to race the car again since the car was put in storage in the early 70s after the two young lads were tragically killed.

The car was indeed single speed with only an accelerator and a brake pedal which reportedly did very very little. Dads favourite scary memory was lapping cars down the front straight of Ruapuna while hard on the brakes whilst the other cars were still changing up gears! The car was indeed a rocket but an incredibly scary car to drive. Allegedly you had to make sure you were doing atleast 100mph and pointing the car very straight before putting your foot all the way down on the accelerator if you wanted to avoid lighting the huge rear tyres up! As you can imagine the car weighed very very little yet had an immensely huge amount of torque from the 7.7 litre flat 6 engine! The car had no exhausts with the straight pipes dumping directly onto the ground making it a very loud car indeed (which a couple neighbors a few streets over would always remind us) This was a problem as with the modern day noise restraints the car could not be run at a couple of tracks due to neighbors of race car tracks suddenly realizing that race cars were loud AFTER they had brought there property....however as loud as the car was it was just an amazingly beautiful sound as im sure everyone can appreciate!!

The car is currently owned by Bill Cowley who purchased it off my father. The car was put up for sale in Fazzaz in Christchurch but the car DID NOT get killed in the earthquake thank god! It is currently undergoing a restoration and for the sake of making it legal to race again it is somehow (lord knows how) getting a reverse gear put in! This car will however resurface some time soon and i am sure we will see it back on the track in all its glory in no time!

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Carlo » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:27 am

The back of the grid was when the car first appeared prior to the fitment of the torque converter tap arrangement. I do remember it doing rolling starts at Ruapuna way behind the field during the very early days of its life.

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by John McKechnie » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:07 pm

Reading through my mags- autoNews vol 3 number 1 page 29.
Article by Robin Curtis and pic of rolling car less body.
Will scan and post here after racing

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by CUSTAXIE50 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:10 pm

Last time I saw this car was at Levin,running off the front.

Re: Continental Special -- Gary Mullholland , Tyrrell Turtill

by Petey » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:49 am

Hey guys great to see so much interest in my dads old car!

I'm Petey son of Bill Datlen. Dad brought the car off our very close family friend Rita Tutel in 1990 along with a 1922 Cadillac also owned by the Turtels. My father was the first person to race the car again since the car was put in storage in the early 70s after the two young lads were tragically killed.

The car was indeed single speed with only an accelerator and a brake pedal which reportedly did very very little. Dads favourite scary memory was lapping cars down the front straight of Ruapuna while hard on the brakes whilst the other cars were still changing up gears! The car was indeed a rocket but an incredibly scary car to drive. Allegedly you had to make sure you were doing atleast 100mph and pointing the car very straight before putting your foot all the way down on the accelerator if you wanted to avoid lighting the huge rear tyres up! As you can imagine the car weighed very very little yet had an immensely huge amount of torque from the 7.7 litre flat 6 engine! The car had no exhausts with the straight pipes dumping directly onto the ground making it a very loud car indeed (which a couple neighbors a few streets over would always remind us) This was a problem as with the modern day noise restraints the car could not be run at a couple of tracks due to neighbors of race car tracks suddenly realizing that race cars were loud AFTER they had brought there property....however as loud as the car was it was just an amazingly beautiful sound as im sure everyone can appreciate!!

The car is currently owned by Bill Cowley who purchased it off my father. The car was put up for sale in Fazzaz in Christchurch but the car DID NOT get killed in the earthquake thank god! It is currently undergoing a restoration and for the sake of making it legal to race again it is somehow (lord knows how) getting a reverse gear put in! This car will however resurface some time soon and i am sure we will see it back on the track in all its glory in no time!

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