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Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Milan Fistonic » Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:15 am

1970 Glenvale 100 - entry list.
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Baypark 1970 - the Glenvale 100

by Roger Dowding » Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:26 pm

Photos from Bay of Plenty Photo News;
A General Motors collection - Australia and United Kingdom.

On the Track and in the pits .
Baypark #171 Vauxhall Victor - Ventora #7 Glenvale 100 1970 BoP photo news #98 25 July 1970 Bop .jpg
Baypark #170 Jim Palmer Monaro Glenvale 100 1970 BoP photo news #98 25 July 1970 Bop arch.jpg
Baypark #172 Jim Palmer Monaro trouble for Brian Scobie Glenvale 100 1970 BoP photo news #98 25 .jpg
Baypark #173 Jim Palmer Monaro Glenvale 100  Pit Stop 1970 BoP photo news #98 25 July 1970 Bop a.jpg
Jim Palmer about to cross the finish line
Baypark #169 Jim Palmer Monaro Glenvale 100 Winner at finish line 1970 BoP photo news #98 25 Jul.jpg
The Winner - Jim Palmer in the Holden Monaro - receives his prize and Trophy
Baypark #174 Jim Palmer Monaro Glenvale 100 Winner presentation 1970 BoP photo news #98 25 July .jpg
Thought these were best to join Ken H's thread as already has lots of other Baypark photos.

Mini Cooper S - #26 and #99

by Roger Dowding » Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:29 am

khyndart in CA wrote:Baypark. December 1968.
Great Australian drivers ; Norm Beechy and Leo Geoghegan discussing how to beat the Kiwis.

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Norm Beechy's Chevy Nova in the paddock area.
I think that is Australian Brian Foley's 1293 Mini Cooper next to it.
(Could that be verified please. I know it was out here for the NZGP meet at Pukekohe a week later. )

(Ken Hyndman )
The Brian Foley Mini at Pukekohe with a different Race Number but the stripe seem correct, not sure about the sponsors.
Pukekohe Jan 1968 GP #17 Austin Cooper S Brian Foley -Aust v2, CCI17102015_0004 (2).jpg
Only taken 9 years to comment !!

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Roger Dowding » Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:28 am

But wait - there's more - one more for Ken H ..
Logo #177Moss Motors 75 years 1948 - 2023 Cars and Coffee Paso Robles Ca April 2nd 2023.jpg

Close to Home for Ken H .... just thinking ..

by Roger Dowding » Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:32 am

Car related, but not to the subject of this thread, but to its creator !.
Logo #175 Moss Motors 75 Years 1948 - 2023 Crest Blue.jpg
and where you can these ....
Logo #176 Moss Motors 75th Anniversary Parts Books covers AH to TR - MG Jaguar Mini Spitfire.jpg
Cheers Ken H,

and a Healey for good measure !!.
AH #157 AH 3000 BJ7 Mk 11 Moss Motors Cardboard Cut Out .jpg
Still have to make it.

Baypark the first meeting ..3rd December 1967

by Roger Dowding » Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 am

Original List of Entrants from Milan Fistonic vast archives - there were more cars at the actual event as was delayed by wet weather [ seem familiar in 2023 ].
18th November 1967.
Baypark Entry List Nov 1967 - actual Race Dec 1967 Milan Fistonic .jpg
The Saloons - on the grid ..
3rd December 1967
Baypark Saloon Grid start 1st meeting Dec 1967 John Larry Lawton .jpg
Sports car on a curve - Elfin in the lead.
Andy Buchanan in the Elfin leads John(ny) Riley and Ross West - notes from J L Lawton.
Baypark Graham Harvey Elfin 1st Metting Dec 1967 John Larry Lawton.jpg
John Larry Lawton photos.

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Roger Dowding » Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:46 am

khyndart in CA wrote:I had the wonderful experience of growing up in the Morrinsville area at Kiwitahi at a time when so many had connections to motor racing.e.g. Spencer (Spinner ) Black went to Kiwitahi school with my sister, Bryan Innes's family brought property from my grandfather, Dennis Marwood married the sister of a neighboring farmer, a relative owned the Motordrome Service Station in Te Rapa, Terry Marshall was at Morrinsville College when I was there, John Paton (Paton & Black ) engines was a friend, Ross Greenville had a really sweet neice etc. etc. ( We were like a big family )
Anyway I took some photos that are not great quality but I wanted to share of that time...

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Spinner Black's Lexington Team Camaro being prepared at the Baypark track at Mount Maunganui. NZ.
December 1968.

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Not every town had a trailer with a Camaro on it sitting in the street ! ( Morrinsville 1969 )
note the high quality of trailer with such a precious load !

( Ken Hyndman)
Just rediscovered this thread and have come across a couple of " Baypark " images from the first [ and postponed meeting ].
Originally scheduled for November 1967, it happened a couple of weeks later in December.

The Black Park Marina V8 - a Nigel Watts photo.
Baypark #049 Marina Graham Park V8 Baypark 1982 Nigel Watts.jpg


Will add the other photos to the next post

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by rf84 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:48 am

Hi Ken Just found this thread 7 years later!!!!! whilst doing some research. You are correct-one of the two BT23s was owned by Bobby Rahal though I think it may have since changed hands. It is a rather long story. Baron Robertson bought the BT23 off Roly but The Baron had trouble getting to grips with the car and he asked Roly to drive it at Baypark and offer some advice. Roly crashed it at the Sweeper and damaged it badly. Baron imported a brand new chassis from the UK and transferred the FVC and other salvageable parts to the new chassis. The damaged car was rebuilt as a Formula Ford and driven by Phil Harris. It passed through a few hands in NZ before being acquired by Martyn Smith in the UK who restored it to it's original specs. Meantime Phil Harris had moved to the US as a mechanic firstly with Pat Burke Racing and then VDS. He became friends with Bobby Rahal who turned up at Phil's shop one day with his latest acquisition. Turns out it was Phil's old Formula Ford! Whatever happened to the other BT23 that Baron raced is a big mystery.

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Terry S » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:21 am

khyndart in CA wrote:Ray and Terry,
You both have put in such interesting information and memories of this time in 1970. Thank you.
I found this short clip of the June 1970 meeting at Oran Park that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Your identification skills are required.
That corner onto the front straight was a great place to watch the 3 wheeled cornering.

[video=youtube;zoFKE-2pV3U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoFKE-2pV3U[/video]


(KH)


Just back from the Long Weekend and catching up.

Firstly the meeting was not on 26 June but 28 June. 26 June was a Friday.

In opening scenes it is Lakis Manticas in # 10 Mini chasing Chris Brauer in the red ex Bob Jane Mustang.

The Porsches are #8 Brian Foley, #3 Jim McKeown, and #4 Bill Brown in the orangey red Scuderia Veloce car.

#79 is Ross Bond in the ex Peter Brock Austin A30 Holden

Pat Peck is in the Camaro

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Terry S » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:14 am

Ray Bell wrote:Patricia Peck's Camaro, Foley, McKeown and possibly Hamilton in Porsches.


Ray I have never heard of Pat Peck being Patricia, she was always just Pat.

It wasn't Hamilton in the Porsche, it was Bill Brown

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Ray Bell » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:48 pm

Patricia Peck's Camaro, Foley, McKeown and possibly Hamilton in Porsches.

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by John McKechnie » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:26 pm

Camaro - would be Terry Allen ?

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by khyndart in CA » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:16 pm

Ray and Terry,
You both have put in such interesting information and memories of this time in 1970. Thank you.
I found this short clip of the June 1970 meeting at Oran Park that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Your identification skills are required.
That corner onto the front straight was a great place to watch the 3 wheeled cornering.

[video=youtube;zoFKE-2pV3U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoFKE-2pV3U[/video]


(KH)

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Ray Bell » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:53 am

So much easier when you have the programme...

At that time the 'Sports Sedans' category had still not been formalised by the CAMS. The common heading under which these cars were grouped was 'Sports Racing - closed, by invitation.'

It was open to cars complying with Sports Car regulations, therefore they had to have headlights, tail lights, mudguards etc. But the 'invitation' was only to cars so complying which were built from sedan cars. This was a direct result of the Appendix J regulations for Touring Car racing being replaced by the 'Improved Production' category.

So many cars existed, in particular early Holdens, which no longer complied... or could be made competitive. For instance, the rules allowed no more than a very minor overbore of the cylinders - 0.030" IIRC - while many of these cars had engines which were bored out way beyond that. But once the movement started it became more of an 'open slather' category and some wild cars resulted.

Hence race headings varied from place to place.

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Terry S » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:15 pm

khyndart in CA wrote:Terry,
Thanks for your message.
I must have been standing right beside this movie maker in May 1970 at Warwick Farm.
[video=youtube_share;jjgNQy6YIRk]https://youtu.be/jjgNQy6YIRk[/video]

(Ken H)


To summarise the cars;

First three are Improved Production Touring, and as Ray says Geoghegan, Beechey and McKeown

Then the sports cars. It was the RAC Trophy Race which was the 2nd round of Aust Sports Car Champ.
#15 is Phil Moore in Elfin 300. It had Ford T/c of only 1.5L hence so far behind the V8's
#2 is Niel Allen in the glorious Elfin ME5
#17 (not #7 Ray) is venerable Bo Holden in Lolita Mk2 BMC.
#8 is Tony Loxley in Chevron B8 BMW
#35 is Ray Hanger in blue Nota Clubman
#25 is Bob Martin in the red Hustler SC1 Ford

Then the sports sedans , or as described in the programme the "Closed Sports Sedan Car Race". So quaint and I wonder what an OPEN Sports Sedan would be.
#48 is Chris Strode in "yellow" Holden FE. Now drives a 1963 Galaxie in Historics.
#35 is Wayne Rogerson in Falcon V8. Now drives a Mazda R2 in Historics
#59 is the late Peter Wherrett in John Leffler's Mini
#57 is Ron Grainger in a Mini (Not Barry, Ray)
#39 is Bill Norman in a supercharged Torana GTR

Some great views and memories

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Terry S » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:23 pm

John McKechnie wrote:Ken- looking at some jackets there, it must have been a bit cold


That's what he had "too much Australian ale" for......

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by khyndart in CA » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:51 pm

John,
May in Sydney seemed a whole lot better than the frost and fog of the Waikato !

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by John McKechnie » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:32 pm

Ken- looking at some jackets there, it must have been a bit cold

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by Dale Harvey » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:28 pm

The really hard cars to pick are the last bunch, that's a GTR Torana there but I'm sure it's not a Series Production event. This is prior to the release of the XU1s.[/QUOTE]

I think that Torana is Bill Norman. So most probably supercharged and running as a sports sedan.
Dale.

Re: B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

by khyndart in CA » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:17 pm

Terry,
I think I had had too much Australian ale that day and did not want to post this but hey,why not, you may make out something in this image.
Remember I have dragged these pix from Oz to NZ to England and then to the US. Their resting place is here on TRS !
Cheers,
Ken. (Memories indeed )
Warwick Farm. Esses. 1970.Crowd scene.pg.jpg

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