The Roaring Season

The Track Map Glen Ducey archives.

[attachment=0]Mt Maunganui #008 Track Map 1962 - 63 turned North Glen Ducey.jpg[/attachment]

Aligned top = North. Above

Below - as it was in the Programme ?

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The recent Map [ again ]. In Monchrome.

[attachment=1]Mt Maunganui #006 B sml 1962 - 1963 Map of the area in 2020's Totara St Hull Road aligned North .jpg[/attachment]

This photo appeared on the " Broadspeed + .. ] Facebook group - with no details.

It is the Mount

[attachment=5]Mt Maunganui #058 1963 #43 Kerry Grant Lotus Cortina GT, arch Broadspeed + .jpg[/attachment]

The car had a 1650cc motor and was, I understand, not a Lotus Twincam, but a very good OHV engine in a Lotus Cortina body/chassis.

John Climo, who now lives in Kallangur Queensland, and was behind the Rod Coppins Zephyr Corvette recreation that is now for sale - has this from Motorman. Early 1964 Edition.

[attachment=4]Mt Maunganui #024 1963 Motorman Report on meeting Page 4 w Gold Star P1 MOUNT DEC 1964-P1 001 sm.jpg[/attachment]

Page 2, with the Ward Jaguar, Marwood Humber photo.

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Page 3,

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Page 4,

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The Track was Totara Street a small section of Hull Road rectangle using a small piece of Hewletts Road and Tasman Quay as the other long straight - Image from a recent AA Map.

- Where was the start finish ? and which direction did it run - Clockwise ??

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[quote="Roger Dowding"]

Here from Levin 1960 - not sure who - not Simon Taylor [ in my opinion ] as he didn't seem to protect his car at events

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Probably this race from the November 1960 meeting at Levin.

I can see Zephyr 41, Singer 34, Simca Aronde 7, Jaguar 45 (Simon Taylor), Mini 67, Morris Minor 65? and possibly the A40 next to the Jaguar.

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Milan, thank you

" The number on the Jaguar is 50. It's John Ward's car from 1963. "
Interestingly the photo of the Jaguar #50 and the Humber #54 featured in the Motorman report on the Event.
Here is the same photo - image from John Climo archives.

Also note that the other Humber that was #54 in 1962 of R Fuller was in the race at #52.

[attachment=1]Mt Maunganui #024 1963 John Ward Jaguar Mk 2 708.158 plate - Dennis Marwood Humber 80 Mt Manganu.jpg[/attachment]

Would like to have images of the rest of the races - to fill in a few gaps in " The Knowledge ".

Whose car was it, before John Ward got it - has similar nose protection to the Archibald Jaguar and others of the time.

Here from Levin 1960 - not sure who - not Simon Taylor [ in my opinion ** see Milan's note and entry list post #48 - next one ] as he didn't seem to protect his car at events. seems like he did. !

[attachment=0]Levin 1960 #126 1960 Zephyr #41 I Segedin Singer Gazelle Simca Jaguar Morris Minor RC Lewis Town.jpg[/attachment]

The number on the Jaguar is 50. It's John Ward's car from 1963.

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The Photo; I was there beside the road when the Stanton rode up the rear wheel of the David Young Cooper clearly I remember seeing the underside of the car as it flipped. Matich pulled up looked around the moved on. From then on the marshal had no difficulty getting the spectators to move back!! it could easily have been a 1955 Lemans. The Stanton crashed down the other side of the road amongst the logs.

A photo has emerged at the Mount Circuit with a Jaguar Mk2 and a Humber 80 number [b]#54[/b].
Some discussion about the car as originally noted as the Archibald Jaguar.

Humber 80 - in 1962 a Humber had race [b]#54[/b] driven by R W Fuller, in 1963 it was Dennis Marwood race number.
Simon Taylor ran a Jaguar Mk 2 in 1962 - Race [b]#33.[/b]
Alister Mcbeath ran one as Race [b]#66[/b] in 1962 - his car did not have the nose covering.

So ... Who is it ???

The Photo; Car Race number on the Jaguar looks like " [b]#50[/b] "
Note ; Plate is " 708.158 " not as on photo - had to magnify to read it properly and is not the plate that McBeath had " 239.322 "

[attachment=0]Jaguar #126 Jaguar Mark 2 Plate 758.153 - 1961 -64 issue Mt Maunganui 1962 w Humber 80 arch not .jpg[/attachment]

[quote="Milan Fistonic"]The two Mount Maunganui events were held on December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963.

The cars in the second photo are:

Kerry Grant - A40
Paul Fahey - VW
Morrie Hogan - Anglia
Neil Johns - Mini
Brian Ax - A40

They finished in the order Grant, Johns, Hogan, Murray Charles and AX. Fahey retired on lap 3.[/quote]

Thanks Milan, noticed two VW entries in the 1962 event.

C M Hogan - The Ford " Anglia " was a 997cc in 1962 and a 1498cc in 1963 - presume as the Allardette was Supercharged and they put a 1.5 ratio on the cc's of supercharged cars. Was it the same Anglia just with the Allard supercharger kit or a new car ??

Allard under Sidney Allard's son [ Allan Allard ] have made recreations of the Allardette in recent years.

Photos from a 2019 Edition of Octane Magazine
[attachment=0]Motoring Books #275 Allardette Octane P 4 2019_10_21_1084 (533x800) (2).jpg[/attachment]

The two Mount Maunganui events were held on December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963.

The cars in the second photo are:

Kerry Grant - A40
Paul Fahey - VW
Morrie Hogan - Anglia
Neil Johns - Mini
Brian Ax - A40

They finished in the order Grant, Johns, Hogan, Murray Charles and AX. Fahey retired on lap 3.

Going through this thread - from " Oldfart's " Inquiry.

These photos from Graeme Kennish archives - Allan Dick had posted them and indicated it was 1964.
From comments here It seems that the track was used in 1962 - 1963.

Jaguar and Zephyr .. Alistair McBeath #66 and Sprague had #51 in 1962

[attachment=4]Motor Racing Mt Maunganui #034 1963 Jaguar Archibald Q Zephyr Ernie Sprague Graeme Kennish .jpg[/attachment]

Small Saloon Car field, Austin A40's, a VW, Anglia's, Mini's. - 1962 - [ [i]not as noted on the photo- to be corrected[/i] ]. Details from Milan Fistonic - Race numbers from Entry List ;
Kerry Grant A40 994 cc ?#70
Paul Fahey VW #71
C M Hogan Anglia 997 #42
[i]-[ pre the Allardette version - Supercharged rated at 1. 5 times = 1495 cc 997 or 1497 cc - 998 motor ] [/i]
Neil Johns Mini Cooper 997 #59
Brian Ax A40 948cc #64

[attachment=3]Motor Racing Mt Maunganui #033 1963 Small Saloons A40 VW Mini etc Graeme Kennish .jpg[/attachment]

J Murphy Q *** in his Anglia #34 - attacking the Haybales. He is entered in 1963 as #34 Anglia with a 1640cc engine.
Another Anglia was #34 in 1962 with a 998 cc engine - this has narrow wheels so maybe the 1962 Race. Also others of Allans photos from 1962.

[attachment=2]Motor Racing Mt Maunganui #021 1962 Anglia J Murphy #34 in bales Graeme Kennish .jpg[/attachment]

Need to check the details against the Entry Lists from GD66 and Milan Fistonic copied below

December 1962 - the last weekend of the year which became the traditional date for the Big Baypark meeting.

[attachment=1]Motor Racing Mt Maunganui #042 Entrant List December 1962 Meeting TRS GD66 .jpg[/attachment]

December 1963

[attachment=0]Motor Racing Mt Maunganui #043 Entrant List December 1963 Meeting Milan Fistonic .jpg[/attachment]

I have a couple of Newspaper /Motorman articles which I show as being 1964 .. buy guess published in January 1964 about the December 28th, 1963 Event ??

Ken its not a dumb question ........... you think like me my friend.. I looked at this also I am 100% certain it is the reflextion frm the sun onto chrome molding .... as for the young fella he looks pensive & more interested some thing else these cars were noisy in the day with straight pipes etc so he could be checking out the girls lol.... nice warm saturday here Ken .......

Grant,
You have good memories to share. Maybe the young fella in my photo should have joined you on the trampolines !
Excuse my dumb question but what is the white something on the front windshield as I can see it in my photo as well ?
I know it was a hot day so is it a vent perhaps ?

Thank you [quote="Allan"]Is this better

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25771[/ATTACH][/quote] Thank you Allan..... I remember the day Dad had practice.... Mum & Dad dropped me off at the end of Hewletts Rd [I think it was] they had trampolens there , I was dropped off for an hr or two jumping up & down loved it as there was nothing like that around in the SI....... after that we all ended up at a local pub [its still there] every one joined in , Ernie bought me a root beer..... & told me the root beer came from those native plants [north island punga & banana trees] roots lol, he was a great story teller....the sort of mother & father you felt very safe to be around....beaut parents we were very lucky but hard task master was Dad

Thank you [quote="Allan"]Is this better

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25771[/ATTACH][/quote] Thank you Allan..... I remember the day Dad had practice.... Mum & Dad dropped me off at the end of Hewletts Rd [I think it was] they had trampolens there , I was dropped off for an hr or two jumping up & down loved it as there was nothing like that around in the SI....... after that we all ended up at a local pub [its still there] every one joined in , Ernie bought me a root beer..... & told me the root beer came from those native plants [north island punga & banana trees] roots lol, he was a great story teller....the sort of mother & father you felt very safe to be around....beaut parents we were very lucky but hard task master was Dad

Is this better Grant?

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Is this better Grant?

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Thank you Ken ........ so this answers a few things this was 1963 so Ernie must have raced there in 1962 in the mk 3 I guess at the end of the day it matters not .. really appreciate these piks Ken .......Kind Regards Grant [quote="khyndart in CA"]I found this old photo showing Ernie Sprague cornering from Hull Road on to Totara Street at Mount Maunganui Road Races.
December 28 th.1963

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(Ken Hyndman )

Sorry Grant but that young man in front does not seem too interested in your dad's driving skills ![/quote]

Thanks Allan, great photos in color that sure bring back memories for me. Well done.

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I'm having the odd problem uploading these but I will keep tryng.