The Roaring Season

by **Roger Dowding** » Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:04 pm

David McKinney comments ;
" Angus Hyslop's D-type Jag between Roy Billington's Elfo Special (left) and Graham Pierce's 100S Austin-Healey "

The Pierce 100S is the Seabrook Fowlds, ex Ross Jensen car AHS3908 which is still in New Zealand and respectfully restored to how it was when Ross Jensen raced it, complete with the small flaps of the front shroud in front of the windscreen.

Had seen this photo before from the Evening Post collection - now correctly identified.
Interesting the Elfo Special has a De Joux body and I first thought it was a Buckler, but that body mould was used on many non- Buckler cars in the late 1950's.

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Good to see the other photo of the car too !! in the same Post [ post one - as identified by David McKinney.

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Thanks again for posting - more for the Austin Healey archives, see there are a couple with the car on track too.

Roger

by **Roger Dowding** » Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:02 pm

David McKinney comments ;
" Angus Hyslop's D-type Jag between Roy Billington's Elfo Special (left) and Graham Pierce's 100S Austin-Healey "

The Pierce 100S is the Seabrook Fowlds, ex Ross Jensen car AHS3908 which is still in new Zealand and resppectfully restored to how it was when Ross Jensen raced it, complete with the small flaps of the front shroud in front of the windscreen.

Had seen this photo before from the Evening Post collection - now correctly identified.
Interesting the Elfo Special has a De Joux body and I first thought it was a Buckler, but that body mould was used on many non- Buckler cars in the late 1950's.

Good to see the other photo of the car too !! in the same Post [ post one - as identified by David McKinney.

Thanks again for posting - more for the Austin Healey archives, see there are a couple with the car on track too.

Roger

by **Roger Dowding** » Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:13 pm

Bry3500 .. Had not seen this thread before, but have seen a lot of the images - copied elsewhere, for example the Buckler D Type and AH 100S trio in the paddock, Ivy Stephenson in her car with NSCC Logo on Overalls and others.

Recently - as in yesterday, my Couson sent me the link as he and I have been looking for the NZ Tourist trophy Images and cuttings from papers of the day about the TT Races on Waiheke.

Thanks for posting- and yes the rules regarding publication are there,which is good.

Cheers

Roger

by **Noo Noo** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:30 am

hilstwist wrote:Yes thats me too sitting next to my best cobber. He is also standing next to that porcshe which was driven by a Wellington Doctor i think. But I could hardly believe it when I saw myself next to that #58 sports car. I was sure when i recognised the jumper. My Rongatai College one. It is the only Jjumper I had!!! I have still got all my hair but alas the tinnies over the years have done for my weight!! My mate was also thrilled to see these unearthed.does anyone know what/who that #58 car is i am next to on page 2 of this thread.

As bry3500 correctly answers in post #76 it's the Bagnall Jaguar.

Here's some useless information: the original car was built by Rob Bagnall, father of Andrew Bagnall. I know that because the Bagnalls lived across the road from us when I was growing up and I have memories of it from when I was about 4 years old.

According to Vercoe, the car didn't acquire a Jaguar engine until it's 3rd owner so the name is something of a misnomer and as it is here, the body is completely different from the original.

One night in late 1966 a mate and I visited a big old empty building in Thorndon, Wellington, which some guys had rented to work on their cars. Brian Watson was one of them and was doing a major makeover of the Bagnall Jag, including building a space frame. He told me the only original Rob Bagnall parts left in the car were the fuel tank and the steering wheel (something like that, anyway) so it had become something like grandads old axe, with 2 new heads and 3 new handles. He also told me he was renaming it Phoenix but I don't know if that stuck.
I believe the car was well known around Wellington in its earlier days but the photos of it on this thread are the only ones I've ever seen. Anyone have or know of any others?

Had to laugh about hilstwist and his jumper. I had to do the same thing and thought I was unique. Seems there were 2 of us LOL.

David Hunter

by **jamie** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:39 pm

Hi BRY these shots are Awsom keep them up #84 pict I was there that day drove my Austin Ulster out there and it went bang on the way home too big a foot Jamie A

by **bry3500** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:59 pm

bry3500 wrote:Photograph of rider sitting on a Zenith Bi-Car motorcycle (number plate C-251), on a road in Christchurch, taken ca 1907-1910 by Steffano Webb
The Bi-Car (or Bicar) motorcycle, which incorporated hub-centre steering and rear suspension, was invented by a Mr Tooley, and built by the Zenith Motor Engineering Company, Surrey, England, between 1905 and 1907. This is a 1907 model, powered by a Fafnir engine.
Zenith Bi-Car motorcycle. Webb, Steffano, 1880?-1967 : Collection of negatives. Ref: 1/2-049622-G. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. http://natlib.govt.nz/reco

Sorry this is a bit off topic and that the thread is a bit all over the place . The photos are widespread and buried.

by **bry3500** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:48 pm

Photograph of rider sitting on a Zenith Bi-Car motorcycle (number plate C-251), on a road in Christchurch, taken ca 1907-1910 by Steffano Webb
The Bi-Car (or Bicar) motorcycle, which incorporated hub-centre steering and rear suspension, was invented by a Mr Tooley, and built by the Zenith Motor Engineering Company, Surrey, England, between 1905 and 1907. This is a 1907 model, powered by a Fafnir engine.
Zenith Bi-Car motorcycle. Webb, Steffano, 1880?-1967 : Collection of negatives. Ref: 1/2-049622-G. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. http://natlib.govt.nz/reco

by **bry3500** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:23 pm

The New Zealand Grand Prix field at Ardmore, Manukau County, Auckland, 10 January, 1959, shortly after the start. Leading (front, right) is Harry Schell (Maserati), then Joakim Bonnier (Maserati), Carroll Shelby (Maserati), Jack Brabham (Cooper, no 4), Stirling Moss (right, Cooper, no 7), Bruce McLaren (Cooper, no 47), Merv Neil (Cooper, no 37), Ross Jensen (right, Maserati), Bib Stillwell (centre, Maserati), Tom Clark (left, Ferrari, no 22), Syd Jensen (centre, Cooper, no 14), John Mansel (Maserati).
Approaching the corner are Pat Hoare (Ferrari), Len Gilbert (obscured, Cooper-Bristol), Ken Harris (Ferrari Monza, no 9), Allen Freeman (Lago-Talbot).

New Zealand Grand Prix, Ardmore, Manukau County, Auckland. New Zealand Free Lance : Photographic prints and negatives. Ref: 1/2-132152-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. http://natlib.govt.nz/records/22328104Date: 10 Jan 1959

by **SPman** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:44 am

bry3500 wrote:5 Portrait of Jack Brabham, Grand Prix Driver at Ardmore Aerodrome Racetrack, South Auckland. Further negatives of the Evening Post newspaper. Ref: EP/1960/0058-05-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. http://natlib.govt.nz/records/30631808

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by **Rod Grimwood** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:20 am

David McKinney wrote:POST 78
Houghton Bay 1958
Joe Harris, Sunbeam-Talbot
Bob Gibbons, who won here in his Cooper-JAP 1100 seven times in a row
Ron Frost, F2 Cooper-Climax
Reg McCutcheon, Ford Customline (or Don Bradford if it's a Fairlane - I used to know the difference!)

Pretty sure its a Fairlane David. Different fairing down back to Customline.
Wouldn't worry about not picking difference in model, you are a dictionary/computer when it comes to all other things.
Cheers and thanks for shareing your knowledge.

by **David McKinney** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:54 am

POST 78
Houghton Bay 1958
Joe Harris, Sunbeam-Talbot
Bob Gibbons, who won here in his Cooper-JAP 1100 seven times in a row
Ron Frost, F2 Cooper-Climax
Reg McCutcheon, Ford Customline (or Don Bradford if it's a Fairlane - I used to know the difference!)

by **bry3500** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:40 am

I'm thinking about Jamie and Carmen - the mind boggles

by **bob homewood** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:26 am

Yes I think there was some sort of attraction there for more than a few of us

by **hilstwist** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:11 am

So did I ! It must have been the great coffee and the toasted sarnies!!

by **ElCoyote** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:36 am

I would be careful admitting to knowing the Purple Onion. Jamie used to hang out there..............so to speak

by **Grant Sprague** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:19 pm

bry3500 wrote:Unidentified members of the New Zealand Racing team leaving for overseas, including emblem and silver fern on their jackets, with the letters NZIGP [New Zealand International Grand Prix?]

Unidentified members of the New Zealand Racing team leaving for overseas, including emblem and silver fern on their jackets, with the letters NZIGP [New Zealand International Grand Prix?]. Further negatives of the Evening Post newspaper. Ref: EP/1960/0472-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand. http://natlib.govt.nz/records/30664150

Great pik this thanks

by **bry3500** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:17 pm

hilstwist wrote:Yes thats me too sitting next to my best cobber. He is also standing next to that porcshe which was driven by a Wellington Doctor i think. But I could hardly believe it when I saw myself next to that #58 sports car. I was sure when i recognised the jumper. My Rongatai College one. It is the only Jjumper I had!!! I have still got all my hair but alas the tinnies over the years have done for my weight!! My mate was also thrilled to see these unearthed.does anyone know what/who that #58 car is i am next to on page 2 of this thread.

#58 was the Bagnall- Jaguar

by **Grant Ellwood** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Y'all have great recall, the only thing I can remember about Wellington in the 60s is the Purple Onion.

by **hilstwist** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:33 pm

This Fairlane or Customline? is Houghton Bay and I have taken quite a few photos at that corner. some of which are on one of my collections on this site.

by **hilstwist** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:31 pm

Yes thats me too sitting next to my best cobber. He is also standing next to that porcshe which was driven by a Wellington Doctor i think. But I could hardly believe it when I saw myself next to that #58 sports car. I was sure when i recognised the jumper. My Rongatai College one. It is the only Jjumper I had!!! I have still got all my hair but alas the tinnies over the years have done for my weight!! My mate was also thrilled to see these unearthed.does anyone know what/who that #58 car is i am next to on page 2 of this thread.

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