The Roaring Season

by **Terry S** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:58 am

bmeeke wrote:As with many 'collectable' cars, there appear to be more 'original' 1964 Rally Sprints than were ever consigned to Alan Mann. Back in the early 1990s I had a lot of correspondence with Julian Balme and he was of the view that there was only (at that time) one genuine '64 Rally Sprint in the UK and it belonged to a guy named Rob Sherring whom, I believe, worked with Graham Hill back in the era. Julian believed there was one other original car and it was in Sweden. There there was the Frank Gardiner car in which he won the 1967 British Touring Car Championship -- nobody seems to know what happened to that car? Those are the only three originals I have ever been aware of. Interesting!

Sounds a bit like the Aussie Ford Falcon GTHO ph 3. There were 300 made.

Now there are only 700 left on the road.......

by **Paul B** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:18 am

928 wrote:your photo showing car number11 is taken at brands hatch with the car turning into druids

Thanks 928... Great spotting!
Cheers

by **928** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:37 pm

your photo showing car number11 is taken at brands hatch with the car turning into druids

by **Paul B** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:27 am

bmeeke wrote:As with many 'collectable' cars, there appear to be more 'original' 1964 Rally Sprints than were ever consigned to Alan Mann. Back in the early 1990s I had a lot of correspondence with Julian Balme and he was of the view that there was only (at that time) one genuine '64 Rally Sprint in the UK and it belonged to a guy named Rob Sherring whom, I believe, worked with Graham Hill back in the era. Julian believed there was one other original car and it was in Sweden. There there was the Frank Gardiner car in which he won the 1967 British Touring Car Championship -- nobody seems to know what happened to that car? Those are the only three originals I have ever been aware of. Interesting!

Julian has a fabulous-looking '64 himself, but has never claimed it as an original, any more than my car is!

I will send you a pic if the Sherring car to your email address which you should feel free to upload here -- I seem to have trouble doing that!

Rob Sherring’s original Falcon Rallye Sprint hard at work somewhere in the UK

Graham Hill’s battered Falcon Rallye Sprint during the 1964 Monte Carlo Rally

by **Paul B** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:27 am

I think this ^^ may be a recreation of the Allan Mann/ Frank Gardiner car,
which now is in USA as you found Ken on page 7 post #134
Also the original MCR cars had Michigan Registration plates.

http://www.vrmotors.com/ford_falcon_1964.html

by **khyndart in CA** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:37 am

Here is a 1993 race from Snetterton where Dennis Clark, driving a 1964 Alan Mann ? Falcon # 9 is shown briefly.
Is this one of the original ones ?
Some enjoyable sounds from all cars involved..

Snetterton, 3.5.1993, 1960s Saloon Cars' Race.
[video=youtube;2PWylI979F8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PWylI979F8[/video]

(Dennis Clark. 1964 Ford Falcon )

( Ken H )

by **bmeeke** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:09 am

Paul B wrote:Agree Bill, Its such a shame to see them cut up, or any period car for that matter.
The Falcon would require a lot of work to get it where it should be but all do-able and well worth it.
I would like to get an original Monte Carlo Rallye Sprint car to restore. I would not care what condition.

As with many 'collectable' cars, there appear to be more 'original' 1964 Rally Sprints than were ever consigned to Alan Mann. Back in the early 1990s I had a lot of correspondence with Julian Balme and he was of the view that there was only (at that time) one genuine '64 Rally Sprint in the UK and it belonged to a guy named Rob Sherring whom, I believe, worked with Graham Hill back in the era. Julian believed there was one other original car and it was in Sweden. There there was the Frank Gardiner car in which he won the 1967 British Touring Car Championship -- nobody seems to know what happened to that car? Those are the only three originals I have ever been aware of. Interesting!

Julian has a fabulous-looking '64 himself, but has never claimed it as an original, any more than my car is!

I will send you a pic if the Sherring car to your email address which you should feel free to upload here -- I seem to have trouble doing that!

by **Paul B** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:19 am

Agree Bill, Its such a shame to see them cut up, or any period car for that matter.
The Falcon would require a lot of work to get it where it should be but all do-able and well worth it.
I would like to get an original Monte Carlo Rallye Sprint car to restore. I would not care what condition.

by **bmeeke** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:29 am

I can't believe that is an 'original' Alan Mann Racing unit -- if it is, they have completely destroyed its value by making such outlandish mods to the car that bear no resemblance to the period specification. Just because its painted red and gold ...................?

by **Paul B** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:11 am

Eric was not wrong Steve! Great machines there.
The poor old Falcon has had the "cut and paste". the Mustangs are very cool.
Nonetheless all good history!

by **Steve Holmes** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:30 pm

Bruce302 wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]48065[/ATTACH]

One of the Alan Mann cars that went to Sweden. Neat exhaust system.

B

I remember seeing this car for sale in a UK historic racing magazine back in the 1990s. Looked much like this at the time.

During the 1980s a guy in the UK called Eric Walker owned both the Falcon, plus the Dennis Leech 1970 Mustang and the Martin Birrane 1970 Mustang. I made contact with him when I wrote a story on the Leech Mustang a few years ago for The Roaring Season which can be found here: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?771-Article-The-Dennis-Leech-Boss-429-Mustang

Eric knew all three cars would become quite valuable in time, and so was keeping them with the intention to restore them, but a divorce in 1987 meant he had to sell them.

Both Mustangs eventually ended up in the US, with the Biranne car restored back to how he raced it in the BSCC. I believe this was a Ford test or mule car for building the Kar-Kraft Mustangs?

The Leech Mustang is now back in the UK, having recently been purchased by long-time Ford/Cobra historic racer Bill Shepperd.

This is how the Leech and Biranne Mustangs looked when Eric owned them:

by **Paul B** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:20 pm

It definitely has that Swedish look about it, Its been heavily modified over the years. See the fuel filler hole in the left rear panel,since blocked up, they had the filler at the back originally.
Where did you discover that Bruce?
Another unearthed MCR car.

by **Spgeti** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:12 pm

Bruce302 wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]48065[/ATTACH]

One of the Alan Mann cars that went to Sweden. Neat exhaust system.

B

Just a bit of slight flaring of the guards as well...

by **Bruce302** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:03 pm

just me being naughty..Probably worth 3 or 4 hp.

by **Oldfart** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:01 pm

I don't know that I would call it neat, if it means tidy, but probably very effective!

by **Bruce302** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:01 am

One of the Alan Mann cars that went to Sweden. Neat exhaust system.

B

by **Paul B** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:37 am

A combined field of pre-65 and pre-72 historic touring cars at Barbagallo Raceway in Perth October 2017.
Bill Meek in his 64 Falcon Sprint did very well and came 1st in his class (pre 65) and 4th overall!

[video=youtube;IvGOZ7x7SME]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvGOZ7x7SME&feature=youtu.be[/video]

by **Spgeti** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:20 am

Those historic seats are for sale thru Kirkey, but you would need to check with MSNZ if you can use them under Schedule AA.

by **Paul B** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:16 am

Thanks Dale, That is a very nice restoration, I agree with Spgeti, the interior looks fantastic.

by **Kiwiboss** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:38 am

Mike Eddy worked for Vic Edelbrock on his race cars for many years, my first stop when flying into LAX was to drive 15min down HWY1 and have a cuppa and a catch up with Mike, and a look though the shop...Dale M

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