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Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 pm

Oldfart wrote:A couple of blokes over here have built up a very close replica of a Peugeot 504 ute/pickup which was homologated for GroupB (yes really). Now most events or is it the "higher body" won't let them run as it's based on a commercial vehicle, even though it has been paperworked through FIA.
Seems there is no easy situation for anyone. Right now here in the UK even a very correct Escort is NOT the way to go rallying as the organisers want different cars, so they are accepting others before Escorts. This is vaguely on thread?


Thanks Rhys. Yes thats interesting. There has been a boom in historic racing in recent years, with so many events now taking place, and an increasing number of high-end events.

I've also noticed a trend in which interesting cars are slowly disappearing, as more and more people prefer to race competitive cars instead. The 2018 RAC TT at the Goodwood Revival is a good example of this. It was the first time not a single Ferrari competed in this race. Now its mostly AC Cobras and lightweight E Type Jaguars.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Oldfart » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:58 am

A couple of blokes over here have built up a very close replica of a Peugeot 504 ute/pickup which was homologated for GroupB (yes really). Now most events or is it the "higher body" won't let them run as it's based on a commercial vehicle, even though it has been paperworked through FIA.
Seems there is no easy situation for anyone. Right now here in the UK even a very correct Escort is NOT the way to go rallying as the organisers want different cars, so they are accepting others before Escorts. This is vaguely on thread?

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:34 pm

Scott Automotive wrote:Hi all, this could be a long shot as it's a bit of an old thread but here goes.

I have been doing a lot of research over the years about ZL1 Camaros that raced back in the day. I came across this thread a couple of years ago and found the pictures that Myles kindly uploaded of the details from the Bob Jane car. We have a 69 Z28 that we have built up as a ZL1 race car, with a period correct 427ci motor and run it in Europe as a Group 4 sports car against big block Corvettes and 911s, it's allowed in as Don Yenko ran one at Sebring 12hrs and Daytona 24hrs in 69 and 70. We could also run it in Group 2 touring car events if we make a couple of changes to it, as they allow ETCC, BSCC and ATCC cars to compete.

I re-found the thread the other day but the majority of the photos I cannot now see, I have tried viewing them on different search engines and platforms and even signed up to image shack, but still nothing.

With the fia tightening down the http paperwork I'm looking for as much photographic evidence as possible to show how the car raced and what the specifications of the components were. Not many people race Camaros over here as the fia have made gaining paperwork very difficult for anything out of the ordinary. I don't think they fully understand something a little different or no one wants to give paperwork to a car they don't have a template to copy.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Wow, cool car. Do you have photos?

I can put you in touch with Myles. If he doesn't have the photos available, he'll be able to pass you on to someone who does. Send me an email: mailto:?subject=&body=

Yes you are right about the FIA regulations. Its OK if there is a homologation sheet, but a lot of makes and models with period history don't have homologation sheets, including the 350 Chev powered HQ Monaro coupe Bob Jane raced after his ZL1 Camaro.

Christophe Schwartz races a 1970 Plymouth Cuda in Europe with a big block Hemi. The Cuda raced in the Trans-Am series with a 5 litre small block, so he had to prove one of these cars went to Europe and was fitted with a big block Hemi. Lots of hoops to jump through.

Beneath the skin pictures

by Scott Automotive » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:08 am

Hi all, this could be a long shot as it's a bit of an old thread but here goes.

I have been doing a lot of research over the years about ZL1 Camaros that raced back in the day. I came across this thread a couple of years ago and found the pictures that Myles kindly uploaded of the details from the Bob Jane car. We have a 69 Z28 that we have built up as a ZL1 race car, with a period correct 427ci motor and run it in Europe as a Group 4 sports car against big block Corvettes and 911s, it's allowed in as Don Yenko ran one at Sebring 12hrs and Daytona 24hrs in 69 and 70. We could also run it in Group 2 touring car events if we make a couple of changes to it, as they allow ETCC, BSCC and ATCC cars to compete.

I re-found the thread the other day but the majority of the photos I cannot now see, I have tried viewing them on different search engines and platforms and even signed up to image shack, but still nothing.

With the fia tightening down the http paperwork I'm looking for as much photographic evidence as possible to show how the car raced and what the specifications of the components were. Not many people race Camaros over here as the fia have made gaining paperwork very difficult for anything out of the ordinary. I don't think they fully understand something a little different or no one wants to give paperwork to a car they don't have a template to copy.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Mon May 20, 2013 1:00 am

thunder427 wrote:Steve is Right;I have been some what 'sidetracked' with assisting to get BJRH 'Social Media' thing going, with Our Resident 'Kiwi', 'IT' Guru and Memorabilia Tragic, Simon Popplewell (Ex Christchurch/Southland Lad!!)...also, its been a very trying time for Big Bob, with an on going public Dispute between his eldest son Rodney, who has seen fit to Freeze his Dad out of the Corporation, ofcourse there are for's and against in all disputes, but this strikes at the heart of supporters of our Mr 'Motorsport,' Bob Jane...Yes!! it is common knowledge Bob has been a hard handed negotiator ,but its hard to deny his impact on Motorsport in Australia and even New Zealand, this period of his life should not be this difficult, nor should he suffer the indignation of basically being made to live life at 83yrs on what could be described as a 'Pension'.......most of this statement is being played out in the Australian 'News' Media..........the bit that I have refrained from mentioning till this time is that the Corporation..Bob Jane T.Marts, has confiscated Bob's Camaro, Jaguar, the Bt11 Brabham ("Gold Star /Spencer Martin Car ),the McLaren M6B, His ocean going Motor Launch, 'The Jolly-O', all this equipment was purchased away before T.Marts became what we Know it as today, Surely in a 'Fair' world those running the Corp. would see the value of a Joint interest in these ,obvious,Company 'Heritage' Items, rather than just their a$$et value............I've probable said to much.... but 'Yes, I miss my Chats with my friend Steve as I drive to work of a morning and My friends on the 'Roaring Seasons, I'm Know to have an oppinion , Right or Wrong!!, does'nt really matter, gives somebody a chance to air the truth...............during a break in Kitchen 'Reno's I will extract the Preverbial Finger and try and sort the photo's for Steve.....regards To The Roaring Season Team members (Oh!! and Steve Elliot, :p He asked me to say that!!)..............Myles! :cool:


Hey Myles, keep up the good work there mate. I do miss our phone calls, but your phone bills must be quite a lot lighter these days! Be sure to check in and say Hi from time to time.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by GD66 » Fri May 17, 2013 11:52 pm

Rod Grimwood wrote: PS I edited out some real thoughts of some others involved.



Probably just as well, Rodders ! As Myles has mentioned, the Jane feud is played out quite publicly here in Aus, but considering the intensity of it I've always been perplexed how Rodney can battle ferociously in public with his dad, yet feel no qualms about racing the Porsche adorned with not only his dad's name but also his likeness ! Sleeping ok ?

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Rod Grimwood » Fri May 17, 2013 11:19 pm

That is unbelievable that anyone could do any such thing like that to a gentlman of his age and what he has done for motorsport and the business community, maybe hard nose some times but thats how it is. A perfect gentleman when he shared some of his precious time with me at Philip Island, a time I will treasure. Best wish's to Bob and yourself Myles.

PS I edited out some real thoughts of some others involved.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by thunder427 » Fri May 17, 2013 2:25 pm

Steve is Right;I have been some what 'sidetracked' with assisting to get BJRH 'Social Media' thing going, with Our Resident 'Kiwi', 'IT' Guru and Memorabilia Tragic, Simon Popplewell (Ex Christchurch/Southland Lad!!)...also, its been a very trying time for Big Bob, with an on going public Dispute between his eldest son Rodney, who has seen fit to Freeze his Dad out of the Corporation, ofcourse there are for's and against in all disputes, but this strikes at the heart of supporters of our Mr 'Motorsport,' Bob Jane...Yes!! it is common knowledge Bob has been a hard handed negotiator ,but its hard to deny his impact on Motorsport in Australia and even New Zealand, this period of his life should not be this difficult, nor should he suffer the indignation of basically being made to live life at 83yrs on what could be described as a 'Pension'.......most of this statement is being played out in the Australian 'News' Media..........the bit that I have refrained from mentioning till this time is that the Corporation..Bob Jane T.Marts, has confiscated Bob's Camaro, Jaguar, the Bt11 Brabham ("Gold Star /Spencer Martin Car ),the McLaren M6B, His ocean going Motor Launch, 'The Jolly-O', all this equipment was purchased away before T.Marts became what we Know it as today, Surely in a 'Fair' world those running the Corp. would see the value of a Joint interest in these ,obvious,Company 'Heritage' Items, rather than just their a$$et value............I've probable said to much.... but 'Yes, I miss my Chats with my friend Steve as I drive to work of a morning and My friends on the 'Roaring Seasons, I'm Know to have an oppinion , Right or Wrong!!, does'nt really matter, gives somebody a chance to air the truth...............during a break in Kitchen 'Reno's I will extract the Preverbial Finger and try and sort the photo's for Steve.....regards To The Roaring Season Team members (Oh!! and Steve Elliot, :p He asked me to say that!!)..............Myles! :cool:

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Rod Grimwood » Wed May 15, 2013 9:10 am

It will be worth the wait.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Tue May 14, 2013 1:39 am

Hi Mark, yes another update would be great, but Myles Johnson, who restored the Camaro, has been busy lately since getting the Bob Jane Racing Heritage going, and hasn't been on here much of late, unfortunately.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Mark Fiddyment » Sun May 12, 2013 1:21 am

It must be time for the next installment of photos and info on this legendary car.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:16 am

From the Bob Jane Racing Heritage, this was a press release from 1971 for the Camaro.

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Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Rod Grimwood » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:07 am

Leo D wrote:Steve, I think this is what you guys are looking for....... just something to wet he appetite...

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This is is sust a small sample of the contents of some of the boxes yet to be gone through.... about 480 pictures in this lot.

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Any luck with going through these, love to see more of one of the great rebuilds of our era.
cheers

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:32 am

Great idea Rod, I agree.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Rod Grimwood » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:25 am

Thought I might just do this to get it back on front page for a while, this is a great bit of history and a great read. For new members spend some time on this.

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:14 am

Bout time for another update guys?

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:38 pm

Bloody cool pics Rod! Thanks for sharing. Beechey looks almost exactly as he did in 1965!

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Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by thunder427 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:39 am

Rod, The sentiment is likewise, it's great to meet with passionate and knowledgable people....to you personally,you ready assistance and no fuss approach getting my favorite Camaro back to our pit was very much appreciated,there is no damage, not that I want to test it's RPM's again,Matt the engine builder gave her a 'clean bill of health' a new throttle cable will make all the difference,......again, great weekend look forward to time for a chat next visit ......regards thunder427/MJ

Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Rod Grimwood » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 am

Just returned from Phillip Island. Meet Miles and had an awesome discussion about the car and the rebuild. You can see why the car is so good as it reflects the attitude of the person. Also had chat with Mr Bob Jane another very pleasant gentleman and interesting to chat with. I hit the jackpot as while we were talking Mr Beechy and his wonderful wife dropped in and we all had a great chat. Norm mentioned how he loved Bay Park and had been good friends with Mr Rorrison and always enjoyed his stay in NZ. A great meeting, never to be forgotten
Thank you Miles for the time and it made my trip. Will keep in touch.

Miles with the car in picture 1
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Re: Bob Jane Camaro - Beneath The Skin

by Steve Holmes » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:13 pm

ZL1 49 wrote:This just in. The April 2012 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines is out with coverage of the 2011 Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals. The Chicago-based MCACN show has become the pre-eminent muscle car show in the US, with close to 500 of the finest cars across all the brands.

http://www.mcacn.com/hmm412.pdf

One of the features of this past show was a ZL-1 display that attracted 16 (was supposed to be 18, but 2 were last minute no shows). We had the #1 and #2 cars, the #1 car in race form - tubbed with candy red and gold lace paint as per the 1969 season - and #2 back to plain jane Dusk Blue. We also had Ken Barnhart's original owner #16 Super Stocker, with which he won the 1970 NHRA US Indy Nationals, a 900 original mile 2 owner Hugger Orange car (#58, I think), and 1 of 2 Garnet Red cars. This was the show at which I did the interview Myles posted (I have to acknowledge the mistake I made in that interview - while trying to think on my feet I neglected to remember that Gibb ordered 5 colors, not 4: Dusk Blue, Le Mans Blue, Cortez Silver, Fathom Green and Hugger Orange. Inexcusable given Barnhart's and Bob Jane's cars are two of my favorites). My car was fortunate enough to be awarded Best of Show - Chevrolet and is the Le Mans Blue car pictured in the article.


Wow, this is just amazing.

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