2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:40 am

shellsport wrote:Thats him Rod , the only one i know who could get away with smokin a durrie on pit wall !


What about the famous footwear.

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by shellsport » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:37 am

Two ZZ Top members on vacation .

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by shellsport » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:33 am

Rod Grimwood wrote:Shellsport, is this the same handsome fella on the left with Herbie. I remember JT at Taupo back in those original days of of the big marque and 'Destitute Racing' with a safety pin through his ear along with the dayglo hair, and that was way before anyone had piercing as a optional extra. He is a clever bugger as well as a character.

Jenny Mossman raced the Consul after JT, and was a very quick and tidy driver.


Thats him Rod , the only one i know who could get away with smokin a durrie on pit wall !

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:17 am

Paul if you look at the very top of photo and in the middle of cross frames, you can see the axles and the sleeve as mentioned. It is in out position. I picked up the chain conversion for steering, only thought old speedway cars did this (when converting to left hook). I think you could spend a lot of time picking up all the 'special engineering' that went into making this big piece of NZ Motorsport.
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:08 am

shellsport wrote:You are on the money there Tony it was built up there , I think the Consul was the 315 of Derek Mitchell and was Holden engined , will confirm with JT .



Shellsport, is this the same handsome fella on the left with Herbie. I remember JT at Taupo back in those original days of of the big marque and 'Destitute Racing' with a safety pin through his ear along with the dayglo hair, and that was way before anyone had piercing as a optional extra. He is a clever bugger as well as a character.

Jenny Mossman raced the Consul after JT, and was a very quick and tidy driver.
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Stanton Corvette stuf.

by Paul Kirk » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:56 am

Rod, further to your great photos of the Stanton Corvette I thought it might be apropriate to ad a little snippet of info. re the diff.
Morry and Charlie had problems wearing out the teeth on the crown wheel and pinions in the early days of developement, so they fitted a Cadilac cw&p which was beefier, this required the carrier flange the cw bolted to, to be further to the side, (the cw being thicker), this they made themselves and incidently, it still had the differential gears in it, i.e. it wasnt just a spool. Still seeing evidence of flex that was effecting the mesh of the gears they made an adjustable rubbing block that rubbed on the back of the cw opposite the pinion so as to reduce the distance the cw flexed away from the pinion on accelleration, also when setting up the mesh, instead of giving the gears backlash as we normally do, they set them up with no backlash!
I imagine what is inside that old V8 diff housing these days is probably more modern and probably incorperates a limited slip as well!
I should mention that Morry and Charlie incorporated a device that enabled them to lock the two rear axles together, or to uncouple them so they had the normal differential effect. Everyone will have seen the diff housing at the back with the chains going forward to sprockets driving the axles, well the inner ends of those axles were splined, and there was/is an internally splined tube/sleeve that could be slid over both axles thereby making them solid, they often used that configuration for shingle hillclimbs, they could then slide the sleeve sideways so it de-coupled the axels if required!
Morry and Charlie had a great affinity with chains, as is bourne out by their chain drive steering system, but that's another story!
PK.

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Grant Ellwood » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:55 am

bigbanger wrote:More of a case of John Thorby coming South. John ran the Ford Consul 315 with the Holden six for a few years in the NI, then moved to the HB Viva with the V8 (not sure who originally built it). Around 1985? John moved to Chch and ran the Viva V8 in OSCA with some engineering help from John Harcourt who knew a thing or two about Rover/Olds/Buick alloy V8 engines. When John T gave racing away, the Viva sat in John Harcourt's Prebbleton workshop for some time. I had left NZ before the car went to anybody else, but when John Thorby ran it it did not have the big box flares pictured, they must have been a later addition.

Is the 6 cyl Consul the same car that Phil Rudd owned? (the AC/DC drummer from Tauranga).

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by bigbanger » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:40 am

TonyG wrote:"Destitute Racing" ! I think they came north at one stage but cant remember if i saw them at Puke or Baypark. Ran a couple of cars from memory. I keep thinking one was a Ford Consul for some reason.


More of a case of John Thorby coming South. John ran the Ford Consul 315 with the Holden six for a few years in the NI, then moved to the HB Viva with the V8 (not sure who originally built it). Around 1985? John moved to Chch and ran the Viva V8 in OSCA with some engineering help from John Harcourt who knew a thing or two about Rover/Olds/Buick alloy V8 engines. When John T gave racing away, the Viva sat in John Harcourt's Prebbleton workshop for some time. I had left NZ before the car went to anybody else, but when John Thorby ran it it did not have the big box flares pictured, they must have been a later addition.

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by shellsport » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:15 am

TonyG wrote:"Destitute Racing" ! I think they came north at one stage but cant remember if i saw them at Puke or Baypark. Ran a couple of cars from memory. I keep thinking one was a Ford Consul for some reason.


You are on the money there Tony it was built up there , I think the Consul was the 315 of Derek Mitchell and was Holden engined , will confirm with JT .

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by TonyG » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:40 am

"Destitute Racing" ! I think they came north at one stage but cant remember if i saw them at Puke or Baypark. Ran a couple of cars from memory. I keep thinking one was a Ford Consul for some reason.

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by shellsport » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:14 am

Steve Holmes wrote:Whats the history on that purple Viva? Looks like the one that was around 15 or so years ago raced by one of the Heslin brothers. It was silver then. At the other Heslin was racing the ex-Ryan/Hyde etc V8 Capri, which I suspect is the blue car pictured earlier in this thread?


This was built by fellow Kaiata resident JT Thorby (NI) with a little 3.5 alloy in it , I Remember him racing at Wigram circa 83 under the " Destitute Racing " banner in a striking lime green / black livery , he had his helmet painted to match ...... and his hair as well . I Remember John Harcourt telling me he was still washing the dye from the balaclava years later he got off JT after he quit racing , a right character he is as i,m sure a few OSCA members here will verify . Cheers , Bazza .

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:02 pm

And a little Chev. How is this for a service wagon, towing in car. This was a neat little wagon.
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:00 pm

An assortment of little Fords
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:58 pm

There were some beautiful Jaguars there and some with history.
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Steve Holmes » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:47 pm

Can anyone fill me in on the background info of Stan Redmans Lola T333CS? Weren't the T333s built for the SCCA's new second generation Can-Am series? Obviously these were essentially F5000s with sports car bodies on top in the early years. Is this what Stans car started out as?

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Steve Holmes » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:44 pm

Fantastic photos Rod, thanks heaps for posting these.

Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:12 pm

Formula Ford History, another of Mr Begg's babies.
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:10 pm

Sports Car History
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:05 pm

Yes, those are exhausts under the front guards, and that does say McLaren on the guard.
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Re: 2012 Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting at Ruapuna

by Rod Grimwood » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:02 pm

And this one that Mr Mauger drove too and from home in, and gave a little squirt after practice, quick and impressive. Especially under hard braking when the boot turns into a big rear air dam.
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