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Baypark Christmas 1978 Photos

by BMCBOY » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:28 am

I discovered these recently and thought they may be of interest in this thread

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Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by david5 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:03 am

Gricey won a round in 1980 and the car was involved in a big crash, Waneroo IIRC, maybe written off ?

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:13 am

I recently located 2 photos of my car in sports sedan events. The first one is Garry at Amaroo Park and the second is the next owner David Langman who painted the car red and this one is at Sandown and both are from Autopics. Sill searching for others.[ATTACH]22894[/ATTACH][ATTACH]22895[/ATTACH]
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Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:32 am

That's fantastic Steve i can't wait to see the rest of the photos, and that first one explains when the damage was done to the quarter panel. It had simply filled with body filler and was quite thick but when doing the resto it was shrunk back and filed near perfect.
Please thank Vern for me Steve.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Steve Holmes » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Mark Fiddyment wrote:Yes, i wonder what became of the 1980 Grice Torana. Does it still exist?


Was this not his 1979 car?

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Steve Holmes » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:58 pm

Mark, you might enjoy these pics. These were supplied to me by Vern Muller, and taken by his brother-in-law at Pukekohe in 1980. They're part of a collection we'll be showing on this site in the near future.

Rogers looks to have been given a whack at some stage. Jim Richards would be driving the Brock HDT car.

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Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:30 pm

Yes, i wonder what became of the 1980 Grice Torana. Does it still exist?

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Steve Holmes » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:36 am

Hey, you're right Mark, I went through the ATCC results from 1981, and sure enough, Gary Whittaker took a 6th place finish (in outright class) at the Lakeside round. Amazing! I didn't realise anyone raced a Torana this late in the piece.

And yes you're right re the rear spoiler on the Torana's from 1980, they had to be removed too. I assume the Torana's couldn't be based on the A9X from 1980? Grice ran the Torana while Bob Morris ran a second Craven Mild entry, which was a Commodore.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:55 am

No Steve, Garry didn't race the Torana in the 1980 ATCC. I'm not sure without checking but i think Garry may have only done the enduros. In either 1980 or 81 he co drove with Peter Janson in the Cadbury Schweppes Commodore.
Yes Grice raced a Torana in 1980 but they had to change to drum brakes on the rear, the bonnet scoop had to go so no down draft webers and i think they also had to lose the rear spoiler. In 1981 and maybe 82 a guy who i think his name was Gary Whittaker raced a Torana in the ATCC but only in the Queensland round.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by aussiemonza » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:53 am

Powder wrote:That would be this car: (Taupo, October 2000)
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I understood that the car is a genuine HDT shell that was heavily damaged very soon after being built and it has little/no period race history. I could be wrong though.

Malcolm


This car was purchased here in Australia as "...a white LX Hatchback" (on the receipt). Any later HDT lineage attached to this car in NZ is fiction (and has been proved in an Australian Court Committal Hearing). Who is John Rea?

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Steve Holmes » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:18 am

Mark Fiddyment wrote:This is what I have found out so far, after the three NZ races Garry raced his group c car in two sports sedan meetings, they were:
1/ Amaroo Park on the 6/4/1980
The race report in Racing Car News even makes reference to Garry running his touring car.
Race 1: a 5 lapper he finished 3rd
Race 2 a 10 lapper going up the hill on lap 4 the engine let go
2/ Sandown 12/4/1980
There were two 13 lap races and whilst Garry was mentioned in the race report there are no details as to his qualifying or finishing positions.
These race meeting were before Gary got his dedicated Torana sports sedan which was the ex- Rex Monaghan hatchback. The group c car was sold in the second half of 1980 to David Langman of Meldourne. My log book shows David as doing two race meetings at Calder Park on the 9/11/1980 and the 14/3/1981. I have found two small race reports but there is no mention of anyone other than the front runners.
I have also found a video on youtube http://youtu.be/vQNz_vNl-kE where David is racing what I am sure is my car an all red hatchback No4 (David painted it red after he bought it off Garry). There is another red hatchback with blue and white stripes on the roof, this is David’s old car a hemi 6 powered sports sedan. David sold the group c car in March/April 1981 after which it saw limited use as a road car.
I bought the car in early 1990 and ran mostly hillclimbs and super sprints but in 1995 I got my provisional race licence and ran it in a group c demo event at Amaroo Park on the 4/6/95. In the last 6 or 7 years the only outings it has been to is display/demo at Muscle Car Masters and Torana Fest at Newcastle.(I need to get it out more and have some fun with it)


Mark, did he not race the Torana in Group C form in the ATCC in 1980? A couple of teams did run the Toranas, including Allan Grice, but of course were required to make several changes to them.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Spgeti » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:40 am

stirlingmac wrote:I guess claiming is the key word....one story I was told was the the car was a former racecar, damaged and sent to the scrappy. It was intercepted and stored in a shed until it was saved and rebuilt. Another similar story I was told was it was a "spare" shell , that was only built after the Toranas were replaced by the Commodores. Considering the value of these things now I wonder if it's history has been verified and where is it now..?? They are one of my all time favorite race machines..


Here in Feilding.....owned by a good friend.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:17 am

Hi fullnoise68
Interesting thought that about Greater Pacific, and while i have not asked Garry about that (will have to ask next time i speek to him) as far as i was aware it was a seperate entity and was managed by a guy named Brian Tilley and was eventually taken over by a larger company.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by fullnoise68 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:52 am

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Mark, I think you`ll find that Greater Pacific Finance was - and possibly still is - actually one of Garrys own companies, as he had his own finance company for his various car franchises/dealerships.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:35 am

Steve Holmes wrote:This is great stuff Mark, thanks for sharing. Re the ex-Jane car, I thought I read somewhere this car was built using special lightweight body panels punched out of thinner guage steel. Is this right, or am I completely off the mark?

Your car looks stunning! You've done an amazing job with it. Did Rogers race it again following its NZ races? I know the Toranas could continue on into the early part of 1980 in Group C, though with several performance sapping changes required. What was the cars history between Rogers and yourself?

Following his very fast Escort Sports Sedan you mentioned, Rogers also raced the ex-Pete Geoghegan Monaro Sports Sedan at the same time he ran the Torana in Group C. Interestingly, Rogers raced an HQ Monaro just briefly in Group Nc/Touring Car Masters. I wonder if this was because he had fond memories of his old Geoghegan car?


This is what I have found out so far, after the three NZ races Garry raced his group c car in two sports sedan meetings, they were:
1/ Amaroo Park on the 6/4/1980
The race report in Racing Car News even makes reference to Garry running his touring car.
Race 1: a 5 lapper he finished 3rd
Race 2 a 10 lapper going up the hill on lap 4 the engine let go
2/ Sandown 12/4/1980
There were two 13 lap races and whilst Garry was mentioned in the race report there are no details as to his qualifying or finishing positions.
These race meeting were before Gary got his dedicated Torana sports sedan which was the ex- Rex Monaghan hatchback. The group c car was sold in the second half of 1980 to David Langman of Meldourne. My log book shows David as doing two race meetings at Calder Park on the 9/11/1980 and the 14/3/1981. I have found two small race reports but there is no mention of anyone other than the front runners.
I have also found a video on youtube http://youtu.be/vQNz_vNl-kE where David is racing what I am sure is my car an all red hatchback No4 (David painted it red after he bought it off Garry). There is another red hatchback with blue and white stripes on the roof, this is David’s old car a hemi 6 powered sports sedan. David sold the group c car in March/April 1981 after which it saw limited use as a road car.
I bought the car in early 1990 and ran mostly hillclimbs and super sprints but in 1995 I got my provisional race licence and ran it in a group c demo event at Amaroo Park on the 4/6/95. In the last 6 or 7 years the only outings it has been to is display/demo at Muscle Car Masters and Torana Fest at Newcastle.(I need to get it out more and have some fun with it)

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Mark Fiddyment » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:58 am

Thanks Trackshots and Steve. And Steve thank Warwick for me. All these photos are absolutly fantastic many thanks.
Regards Mark

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Steve Holmes » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:01 am

Could the middle one have been Manfeild?

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Trakshots » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:54 am

Piks from my files. The middle one has different signage. Not sure where that is. Other two definitely taken at Bay Park.

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Steve Holmes » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:54 am

Trakshots, awesome!

Re: Garry Rogers Torana NZ Visit

by Trakshots » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:51 am

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